Néstor Ortigoza

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Néstor Ortigoza

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Jul 23, 06:19

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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jul 23, 15:47

As usual your stats for the Argentinos guys look good. I have to ask again, why do your plays you make always have their LPS much lower than their LPA. I usually will go the opposite. Not that you are wrong, just not sure of the logic behind it. Do Argentine players really lack pace on their balls?
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby drgenmad » 2009 Jul 23, 23:18

* Tactical Dribbling
*Penalties

what about this???
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby jorgecavs » 2009 Jul 24, 22:44

the truth is bad LPS.
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby Messias18 » 2009 Jul 25, 14:54

drgenmad wrote:* Tactical Dribbling

I disagree :lol:

Strong DM's like Gatusso doesn't has Tactical Dribble star
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby drgenmad » 2009 Jul 25, 17:57

but he is a play maker, he is the brains in argentinos, anyway penalties should go. he has been the taker for the last two years at least and rarely miss
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby julgui » 2010 Apr 03, 02:45

Position: DMF*

Attack: 70 (-4)
Defence: 75 (+2)
Balance: 79 (-5)
Top Speed: 76 (-3)
Acceleration: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 82 (+4)
Team Work: 81 (+2)

S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-touch Play

I believe that these values, in my opinion, would stay like this now.
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby julgui » 2010 Apr 12, 03:55

Sug?
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby Messias18 » 2010 Apr 15, 04:05

I think defense is fine at 73:
Lucas BERNARDI, Jesus MENDEZ, Néstor ORTIGOZA, Leandro CORONEL, Leandro SOMOZA

About ATT he has really good positioning IMO, but I prefer a lower value in 71-73 (-3/-1)
I agree with TW, the other does not seem necessary.

Added PK Taker card, 1-touch Play is for shots
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby rivermipasion » 2010 May 11, 17:20

I'd suggest:

Short Pass Accuracy: 82
Short Pass Speed: 80
Long Pass Acc.: 81
Long Pass Speed: 79

Pass the ball is the best quality of him.
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby Messias18 » 2010 May 11, 18:52

14/14 in penalties, amazing...
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby ballack13 » 2010 Jun 02, 19:18

These stats look very underated from what I've seen of him.

Rimverimpasion's suggestions are probably right.
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby Messias18 » 2010 Jun 02, 21:08

I think that the current passing is good.. Is more necessary these IMO:

Ment: 82-84 (+2/+4)
TW: 80-82 (+1/+3)
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby s-cobar » 2010 Jun 03, 07:18

IMO you can take the midway at both values.
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby Messias18 » 2010 Jun 03, 12:26

Short Pass Accuracy: 80 (+2)
Ment: 83 (+3)
TW: 81 (+2)

Updated
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby jorgecavs » 2010 Jul 04, 02:20

I have notes for this solid.
Viewed vs Japan and many games of the Clausura 2010

Attack: 70
Defence: 62-63
Balance: 83
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 77
Acceleration: 76-77
Response: 79
Agility: 77-78
Dribble Accuracy: 79
Dribble Speed: 79
Short Pass Acc.: 78-79
Short Pass Speed: 78
Long Pass Acc.: 79-80
Long Pass Speed: 79
Shot Accuracy: 70-72
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 71-73
Free Kick Accuracy: 70-72
Curling: 77-79
Header: 68
Jump: 73-74
Technique: 78-79
Aggression: 72-74
Mentality: 80-81
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 81-82

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot frequency: 5
Consistency: 5

PLAYER INDEX CARDS:
S04 - PK Taker

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
* Penalties (Perfect)

All goals from him:

Link:Todos los goles de Ortigoza hasta Mayo de 2010
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby Messias18 » 2010 Jul 04, 19:41

Why the low Defense?
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby jorgecavs » 2010 Jul 05, 07:04

Messias18 wrote:Why the low Defense?


It is not good defensively, is better on the offensive.
I think 62-63 would be nice, comparing it with the rest of their same position. (CMF)

Examples global defense: Abou DIABY (63), Aaron RAMSEY (63), Cesc FABREGAS (64), DECO (64), Mark RANDALL (65), DENÍLSON (66), Frank LAMPARD (67), LUCAS Leiva (70), John Obi MIKEL (72), Gareth Barry (74), Michael ESSIEN (76)...

I also think it's no good playing DMF, not retrieve the ball much in midfield, Mercier is the defensive midfielder.
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby julgui » 2010 Jul 05, 19:02

honestly do not share.
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Re: Néstor ORTIGOZA

Postby Vickingo » 2010 Sep 03, 18:07

I think that he's a great player. He has a great vision of the game and an amazing shoot in the penalties. Why his Team work is too low? I think that he has one of the best team work of the league. Clearly he "hace jugar a todo el equipo"(makes to play to whole the team) all the time. I suggest an appropiate value like 84, being the brain of Argentinos Juniors to reach the championship.

Also, I think that he could have
P20 - Talisman Card. He's one of that players that can drive the team forward.

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