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Raúl Meireles

Postby JTMachado » 2008 Dec 09, 15:05

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*Note: Due to playing a different role at his club, Meireles only warrants S09 - Covering / Covering when playing for his NT.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Peter80000 » 2009 Jan 04, 18:36

Just trying to understand who deserves the middle shooting star... The same thing maybe applies to Katsouranis too. Yeah, being Portuguese I always thought of Meireles as having a good shot from far away... But if we look at the stats... 4 and a half years with Porto and 2 and a half with the NT... 10 goals in total... And that's in every competition... The only middle shot goal I can remember his scoring was that one against Chelsea... And that one had a deflection.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby RB7 » 2009 Jan 04, 18:52

*Middle Shooting is about shooting from distance not scoring from distance or else Petit wouldn't have it AT ALL :lol:
But Meireles shoots a lot more than Katso ;)

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Peter80000 » 2009 Jan 04, 18:59

RB7 wrote:*Middle Shooting is about shooting from distance not scoring from distance or else Petit wouldn't have it AT ALL :lol:
But Meireles shoots a lot more than Katso ;)


I get it, but since it means both power and accuracy in long ranged shots shouldn't it be more used for players who score more often from long range? Or is it more for players who attempt it lots? Petit scored maybe 1 in 15 screamers :D. Yeah, actually if you look at the stats, katso is a bit more profilific a scorer than Meireles in both club and NT, but I really can't remember a long ranged goal now... Probably there was one or two :)
I don't know... when I think of someone who really deserves the middle shooting I instantly think of Isaías :D

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby RB7 » 2009 Jan 04, 19:09

Peter80000 wrote:I get it, but since it means both power and accuracy in long ranged shots shouldn't it be more used for players who score more often from long range? Or is it more for players who attempt it lots? Petit scored maybe 1 in 15 screamers :D. Yeah, actually if you look at the stats, katso is a bit more profilific a scorer than Meireles in both club and NT, but I really can't remember a long ranged goal now... Probably there was one or two :)
I don't know... when I think of someone who really deserves the middle shooting I instantly think of Isaías :D


No, it just makes them attempt it more often ;)
And Meireles shoots more than Katso but it's due to their different roles in their respective teams ;)

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Viriato » 2009 Jan 04, 19:27

There was an ongoing discussion concerning Meireles' Mentality in the old boards. If I remember correctly, the high 80's were being suggested, as he is definitely one of the hardest working midfielders around. What do you say?

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby RB7 » 2009 Jan 04, 19:30

Viriato wrote:There was an ongoing discussion concerning Meireles' Mentality in the old boards. If I remember correctly, the high 80's were being suggested, as he is definitely one of the hardest working midfielders around. What do you say?


I agree with it since I was the one to suggest it :lol:
Anyways, what's your opinion?

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 04, 19:34

isn't he a NT player?

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby RB7 » 2009 Jan 04, 19:35

PMC wrote:isn't he a NT player?


Yes, he scored his first goal for our NT in Euro 2008 vs Turkey I think :)

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 04, 19:38

I think we need to review alot of players mate... theres lots of unknown guys with the same att/def ratio and its simply unfair towards our well thought of ladders :evil:

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby RB7 » 2009 Jan 04, 19:41

PMC wrote:I think we need to review alot of players mate... theres lots of unknown guys with the same att/def ratio and its simply unfair towards our well thought of ladders :evil:


Who do you mean? Side-Backs?

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 04, 19:43

RB7 wrote:
PMC wrote:I think we need to review alot of players mate... theres lots of unknown guys with the same att/def ratio and its simply unfair towards our well thought of ladders :evil:


Who do you mean? Side-Backs?


midfielders and sidebacks

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Viriato » 2009 Jan 05, 16:02

RB7 wrote:
Viriato wrote:There was an ongoing discussion concerning Meireles' Mentality in the old boards. If I remember correctly, the high 80's were being suggested, as he is definitely one of the hardest working midfielders around. What do you say?


I agree with it since I was the one to suggest it :lol:
Anyways, what's your opinion?

I'd say 89, but that one time he limped through the better part of a match, screaming his lungs out all the while... made me wonder if he might not be deserving of a 90. Hard-working is his middle name, to be sure.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby RB7 » 2009 Jan 05, 16:05

Viriato wrote:
RB7 wrote:
Viriato wrote:There was an ongoing discussion concerning Meireles' Mentality in the old boards. If I remember correctly, the high 80's were being suggested, as he is definitely one of the hardest working midfielders around. What do you say?


I agree with it since I was the one to suggest it :lol:
Anyways, what's your opinion?

I'd say 89, but that one time he limped through the better part of a match, screaming his lungs out all the while... made me wonder if he might not be deserving of a 90. Hard-working is his middle name, to be sure.


Derlei is known because of his never giving up attitude and has an 89.. so I'd probably go for 87 on Meireles.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Viriato » 2009 Jan 05, 16:19

Hmmm. Normally I'd say this is the typical case of the unsung hero not getting his due just because he doesn't score goals and does the less glamorous job on the pitch. But you know your stats, mate, and I trust your judgment.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby RB7 » 2009 Jan 05, 16:28

Viriato wrote:Hmmm. Normally I'd say this is the typical case of the unsung hero not getting his due just because he doesn't score goals and does the less glamorous job on the pitch. But you know your stats, mate, and I trust your judgment.


Thanks but they are not mine :lol:
But you're right, he does the dirty job but he sure is hard-working.. TDM_21 agreed too.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby element » 2009 Jan 05, 16:32

Agree on 87 and what do you guys think of covering?

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby RB7 » 2009 Jan 05, 16:40

element wrote:Agree on 87 and what do you guys think of covering?


Updated ;)
Agree on covering.
Any other agrees?

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Viriato » 2009 Jan 05, 17:56

Can't believe I overlooked that. Covering, yes, most definitely.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby RB7 » 2009 Jan 05, 20:43

Viriato wrote:Can't believe I overlooked that. Covering, yes, most definitely.


It sucks doesn't it? Me and TDM said the same thing, it's obvious he should get it :lol:
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