Frank Lampard, New York City FC

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Frank Lampard, New York City FC

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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby FDA192 » 2008 Dec 15, 18:35

Response could be even higher in my opinion, 90 maybe. He's absolutely world class in that aspect. And shouldn't he have a passing* instead of the playmaker*? Or maybe both?
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 16, 00:56

FDA192 wrote:Response could be even higher in my opinion, 90 maybe. He's absolutely world class in that aspect. And shouldn't he have a passing* instead of the playmaker*? Or maybe both?

Response was a massive discussion in the previous site, that was yet to get resolved. Basically I thought he would be the 2nd most responsive CMF behind Cambiasso at a 90/91, and basically every good stats maker on here told me I was wrong, and that his response could actually be lowered :P

But yes, he is one of the most "Intellegent" players!
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby Brezza » 2008 Dec 16, 01:57

FDA192 wrote:Response could be even higher in my opinion, 90 maybe. He's absolutely world class in that aspect. And shouldn't he have a passing* instead of the playmaker*? Or maybe both?



I agree to maybe raise it to 89 in relation to the ladders but no further. This is the Lampard that should get 90 for response when he was in the form of his career and the best player playing in the premiership. ( in fact I just updated it now, w00t)

viewtopic.php?f=188&t=4040&p=5504#p5504
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 16, 02:08

Brezza wrote:I agree to maybe raise it to 89 in relation to the ladders but no further. This is the Lampard that should get 90 for response when he was in the form of his career and the best player playing in the premiership. ( in fact I just updated it now, w00t)

viewtopic.php?f=188&t=4040&p=5504#p5504

That was the main reasoning for not improving. Is that he was a 90 in his prime...not now. Some people had him on the same level as Gerrard at about an 86. Seems there is a big devide on his Response stats ;)
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby Vandeach » 2008 Dec 16, 19:51

Technqiue could be about 79 or 80 max in my opinion he's never had a great first touch.
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby lfc 4 eva » 2008 Dec 16, 20:15

Vandeach wrote:Technqiue could be about 79 or 80 max in my opinion he's never had a great first touch.


I think hes got a prettty decent first touch, when he makes those dashes into the area, takes one neat touch and BANG! its in the net.
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby pob26 » 2008 Dec 16, 21:16

No he's got a very good touch, one of the best at chelsea actually. You rarely see him miscontrolling the ball, infact I'd propose raising it to 88, this means hes not so good that he'll perform tricks, but allows him to have a touch where he never really miscontrols the ball. For me this is Lampard, his touch is very under rated and this makes up for his lack of pace.
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby WayneThePayne » 2008 Dec 17, 11:52

I agree that he has a great first touch but 88 is a bit over the top, I suggest 86
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby Fides » 2008 Dec 17, 13:55

IMO the current value 84 is fine. Way above average, consider it good, but nothing really special.
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby quincy_huang » 2008 Dec 18, 03:28

Fides wrote:IMO the current value 84 is fine. Way above average, consider it good, but nothing really special.

same here..84 is fine
anything higher/lower would just not reflecting wht he is
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby Alien » 2008 Dec 23, 12:38

His shot power and long pass acc. are too low.
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby Paddy » 2008 Dec 23, 14:03

i honestly think he deserves a higher ST, he's great at shooting from awkward angles, remember his lob against Hull on his bad foot?

here's one against Barca aswell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBwF6093SWc
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 23, 20:25

Paddy wrote:i honestly think he deserves a higher ST, he's great at shooting from awkward angles, remember his lob against Hull on his bad foot?

here's one against Barca aswell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBwF6093SWc

85 is really good though! Its not world class, but I don't think his Shot Tech should be world class.
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby FDA192 » 2008 Dec 23, 20:27

Isn't he a bit stronger than this, let's say about 82?
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby Alien » 2008 Dec 23, 20:39

FDA192 wrote:Isn't he a bit stronger than this, let's say about 82?

Agree.
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby Alien » 2008 Dec 24, 21:49

Why is Ballack so much better then Lampard?
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby FDA192 » 2008 Dec 24, 22:32

Defensively? Ballack just drops deeper more often to help and defend, and is good at it as well; he also shows that with Germany. Lampard doesn't do that as often.
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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 24, 23:30

Alien wrote:
FDA192 wrote:Isn't he a bit stronger than this, let's say about 82?

Agree.


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Re: Frank LAMPARD

Postby manutd » 2008 Dec 26, 11:44

agree

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