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Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 13:27

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CLASSIC SET(S): 2002- 2005

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Juninho has scored 43 goals from direct free kicks for Olympique Lyonnais.
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Postby S-J23 » 2008 Dec 21, 15:53

I'd suggest higher dribble accuracy.. his ball control is among the best in world.. and current value suggests this not..
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby Paddy » 2008 Dec 21, 16:18

i also thought he was more agile than this? he seems quite twisty turny to me, and can move in awkward directions.
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby S-J23 » 2008 Dec 21, 16:28

true, true.. 79 and 86 are absolutely underrated values..

I'd say low-to-mid 80's for agility.. and 89-91 DA.. his control is amazing but it's nowhere near perfection of Messi and Zlatan..
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby Paddy » 2008 Dec 21, 16:34

they seem reasonable enough for me, agree
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 21, 23:11

I don't think we should overdo agility... he seems a bid slow and only does that quick move occassionally... he's more about elegance than anything else... about DA... I think 88 would be appropiate... I don't want him to turn into a "quick and agile" player though... he seemed fairly rated here, the modification shouldnt be too drastic
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby Paddy » 2008 Dec 21, 23:19

we're not updating speed though
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 21, 23:21

Paddy wrote:we're not updating speed though


I mean quick in terms of agile... quick to turn, move etc. its not his style

also you shouldnt forget that he's always been fairly moderate in comparison to Kaka, Ronaldinho and such... he shouldn't be too close to their level
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby Paddy » 2008 Dec 21, 23:23

of course not, I was just stating 79 is underating him, I think 82 would be a good number for it
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 21, 23:28

81 at best... 82 puts him in the same league as some smaller players and Juninho has never been great in that sense
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby Paddy » 2008 Dec 21, 23:33

it'd put him one less than scholes and berbatov at 82 so i don't think hes that much worse than them if not on par
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby Shadowx55x » 2008 Dec 22, 06:12

a better photo for the front post, more recent :

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i guess re-size it a litte and its good to go.
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby manutd » 2008 Dec 22, 10:34

I think 81
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby Bret_Hart_67 » 2008 Dec 23, 12:04

Pirlo is at 82 and he is a little bit better than Juni in terms of agility so I agree with 81 :)
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby S-J23 » 2008 Dec 23, 12:45

and what about DA, Baptiste? I think 90-91? :geek:
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 23, 12:46

S-J23 wrote:and what about DA, Baptiste? I think 90-91? :geek:


this would put him in the same bracket as Ronaldinho, Kaka, Ribery etc. his technique is awesome but Juninho isn't that sort of dribbler imo :shock:
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby S-J23 » 2008 Dec 23, 12:52

technique has nothing to do with DA.. it's all about the control of the ball and that's one of Juni's main strengths..

all those you mentioned are at 93 I think (not sure about Ribéry) and 90-91 is kinda Pirlo level and that's where I'd put Juni as well.. he is showing how awesome dribbling skills he has.. and how beautiful and complete his control is.. we were planning to do a general update for him with Baptiste but fucking MSN pissed on me.. anyways.. reminds me, Baptiste..

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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 23, 12:54

i mean technique on DA... I don't think he's even on Diego's level or Deco... high 80s would be absolutely sufficiant imo
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby S-J23 » 2008 Dec 23, 13:00

he does as much tricks as Zlatan or Quaresma and even more complex ones than fucking stepover queer Ronaldo.. and yet you would wanna rate him lower? surely he ain't as clinic at them as the master himself (Zlatan) but I'd very very directly compare Juni's dribbling abilities with Pirlo's and Figo's!!!! because he isn't doing these trick when not necessary.. just like these two.. and he surely ain't worse at overall control of the ball than Pirlo..

Figo 94
Pirlo 91
Juninho 86?!
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Re: Pernambucano JUNINHO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 23, 13:02

I'd say 88/89 and keep his agility at 80 then as it also influences his dribbling... Juninho is all about class to me
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