Arturo Vidal

[PES Stats Database]

[s-cobar]

the same like Renato Augisto - he needs another registed Position. He playes as an OMF for Bayer 04 the hole season.

[Heui]

The problem is, his defensive positioning is mostly better than his offensive positioning.

I would suggest to make him a more attacking CMF with maybe giving him *Reaction and an arrow in the formation.

[s-cobar]

I agree with *Reaction

so he`s more offensive than before

[Heui]

I would also like to raise his Attack to 74

[s-cobar]

I agree, cause than he`s a really attacking cmf

[monKevski]

I would also raise his DS, because he doesn't lose so much pace with the ball. 80 should suits him.

And for the offensive CMF Vidal:

Couldn't we give him a higher Aggression?
He's often at the 16-meter-box of the opponent and when his team has the ball, he automatically runs forward to the opponent's goal.
In my OF his Aggression is 76.

[Ace]

The problem is, his defensive positioning is mostly better than his offensive positioning.

I would suggest to make him a more attacking CMF with maybe giving him *Reaction and an arrow in the formation.

then in Formation thread I have to make him CMF instead of AMF?

[monKevski]

Yes and please swap Henrique with Friedrich and Helmes with Kießling.

[Heui]

DS 80 is just what I have in my book for him.

So should we delete *Reaction again and raise his Aggression? I had noted down an 80 aswell.

[monKevski]

80 would be too high as a playing CMF I think.
He's still young and on the way to it.
A value between 76-78 would be accurate.

[s-cobar]

aggression 80 and delete *reaction is ok

DS 78 ist ok too, I think

80 ist bit to high!

[Heui]

what about his abilities in the air?

I put him on Header 72 & Jump 76

[s-cobar]

his jump is better than 76, for example, look at his goal against Bayern at the cup. 78 maybe

[monKevski]

I don't think his jump should be so as 80, he isn't at that value, yet.
A value between 76-78 would be fine.

[Heui]

so again I would say we take the midway and put his jump on 77

[KeyserSoze]

The problem is, his defensive positioning is mostly better than his offensive positioning.

I would suggest to make him a more attacking CMF with maybe giving him *Reaction and an arrow in the formation.

It's because of the fact that he is a CB converted into a DMF/CMF (as it appears in the Football Manager serie, where he appears as a natural CB), so
I agree that his Defense is slightly higher than his Attack. I would also add
CB as one of his positions as well.

[calleklein]

Did he play only 1 Time as CB for Leverkusen?
I think no, so it is not necessary to give him CB*

[monKevski]

I think so, too.

[KeyserSoze]

Probably not in Germany, but he started his career as a CB for both Colo Colo and Chile.
Only a Chilean guy like me can confirm that.
It's like denying that Hleb is an AMF by nature (Magath gave a lot of freedom in that position to let him display his best on the pitch), even though Wenger used him as a RMF/RWF.