Joaquín Sánchez | 2004-2006 & | 2008-2010

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Joaquín Sánchez | 2004-2006 & | 2008-2010

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Jun 04, 13:34

2004-2006

Club: Real Betis



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Joaquín, full name Joaquín Sánchez Rodríguez, (born July 21, 1981 in El Puerto de Santa María, Cádiz) is a Spanish footballer. He is a right winger, famed for his bursts of speed, potent dribbling ability and dangerous crossing. Joaquin has proven himself to be one of the best right wingers in the world.

During the 1999-00 season, Joaquín played 26 games for Real Betis B, scoring 2 goals. He then played 38 games, scoring 3 goals, in the Real Betis first team in the Segunda División during the 2000-01 season. Betis were promoted the same season.

Joaquín made over 180 appearances in La Liga and scored 29 goals in his following five seasons with Real Betis. He also scored 3 goals in the Copa del Rey. He was a consistent assister of goals for Real Betis, assisting over 50 goals in five La Liga seasons. Joaquín played in two third round qualifying Champions League matches, as well as 6 group stages matches in 2005, including a 1-0 triumph over Chelsea and a 0-0 draw against Liverpool at Anfield. Joaquín also made 9 UEFA Cup appearances in his career, scoring one goal.

Joaquín won his first and only medal for Real Betis during the Copa del Rey final against Osasuna at the Vicente Calderón stadium, on June 11, 2005. Joaquín played the full ninety minutes plus thirty minutes of extra time as Betis won 2-1. Joaquín was instrumental in their success.

On May 25, 2006, Joaquín confirmed that he was considering leaving Real Betis, admitting that he would welcome a move to the the Premiership in the summer, although La Liga would be his preferred option. However, on July 27 2006 following a discussion with Joaquín, Real Betis chairman José León stated that Joaquin had convinced him that he would stay at Real Betis for another year. "It has surprised me a lot,” he admitted. “I came to convince him and on the contrary, he has convinced me", stated José León. Then, during mid August, Joaquín shocked los béticos by declaring in a press conference his intentions to leave Real Betis.


Joaquín finally made his big move to a big club by joining the spanish giants Valencia CF, he was thought to have moved to Valencia in early August 2006 for €15.0 million, along with a swap deal that included Regueiro. However, some difficulties in the payment appeared, along with Regueiro's insistence in staying at Valencia, which meant that the transfer was delayed.

A bid of €25.0 million was later accepted. Joaquín was loaned to Albacete as punishment by Manuel Ruiz de Lopera, due to Joaquín taking a certain percentage of the transfer fee. Manuel Ruiz de Lopera used a clause in Joaquín's contract whereby he could be loaned to any club if it was decided by Real Betis. Joaquín went to Albacete using his own transport and to prove that he went to the club he had himself photographed by operatives working nearby. The switch to Albacete was then cancelled.

Joaquín then officially moved to Valencia in late August 2006 for €25.0 million, having sorted out financial dealings with Manuel Ruiz de Lopera, signing a five year contract, with the choice of a further one year extension.

He received a very good reception from home Real Betis fans in their 2-1 over Valencia on January 28, 2007. Joaquin appeared as a substitute during the match.

International Team
Joaquín was a member of the Spanish squad at the 2002 FIFA World Cup and missed the crucial penalty which eliminated them from the competition against South Korea in the quarter-finals. However, he figured again for Spain at Euro 2004 and also at the 2006 FIFA World Cup, making impressive performances in both.

Transfer Interest
Although having been at Real Betis for the first six years of his professional career, Joaquín had been heavily linked with moves to bigger clubs such as Barcelona, Chelsea, Liverpool, Lyon, Real Madrid, Manchester United, A.S. Roma, and Valencia. Chelsea were the earliest confirmed bidders for the players services, having bid €25.0 million for Joaquín during the summer of 2005. A late bid from Lyon during August 2006 did not come to fruition as Joaquín made clear his intentions to Real Betis to stay in Spain. He then left Real Betis for Valencia for a club record fee of €25.0 million.

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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/12418/joaqu%C3%ADn?cc=5739
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaqu%C3%ADn_S%C3%A1nchez


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2008-2010

Club: Valencia CF



Last edited by Adrien on 2014 Mar 20, 09:51, edited 11 times in total.
Reason: Added 2008-2010 set, adjusted format.
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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004/2005

Postby Markulur » 2009 Jun 04, 14:04

Good set! Probably Curling can be a bit higher... I remember him doing good curls on Betis making better his FK's and passes. ;)

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004/2005

Postby clinon » 2009 Jun 04, 14:07

Markulur wrote:Good set! Probably Curling can be a bit higher... I remember him doing good curls on Betis making better his FK's and passes. ;)


Thx for the comment ;)

What value do you would suggest?

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004/2005

Postby Classical » 2009 Jun 04, 23:40

At his peek he had more dribble.
He was fated to be world best winger but he failed unfortunely.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004/2005

Postby Markulur » 2009 Jul 06, 23:03

I forgot to say that his agression can be even higher... orange numbers sure. He is a crazy take-and-run. :lol:
Curling can be one or two points more.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby clinon » 2009 Jul 06, 23:12

Updated 8-)

But I think his Curling is fine at 82 (83 max. imo).

What you think about raising his ACC? He was really fast.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby Markulur » 2009 Jul 06, 23:17

Then 82 for culing is ok. ;)

For Acc.. I think that he was at least like Aguero now and is on 91. 92 can be a good option too.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby Yowza » 2009 Jul 07, 11:05

He deserves Dribble Accuracy.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby SportingGijón » 2010 Jan 11, 23:02

Oh I was looking for this one and It seems really accurate, grats for the stats and thankyou!

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby Fevernova » 2010 Jan 11, 23:07

Many people back then though he could be "the next big thing"...However, who wouldn´t between him, Denilson, Alfonso, Assunçao, Varela and Co. Betis was reallt something...

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby jurgens » 2011 Aug 22, 05:25

Updated to new format, and info vids etc.

Would like to make these changes.

sta: 83
bal: 80
spa: 77
sa: 76/77
tech: 90

DA could possibly come up. Flawless control really, though 90 is pretty good... he could easily warrant higher. Tech is an easy 90 imo. Hes was and still is just so technically sound. Shooting was pretty bad... I mean his st was great, and the value is deserved but his accuracy.... pretty bad during these years. Though... probably a 77 would be best considering how low SP. He wasn't much of a threat from range, but he could place decently. I think his wwek foot stats are very wrong too. He could lead with his left foot just as good as his rate, and often did so. Any objections, thoughts, suggestions?

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby Xyder » 2011 Aug 22, 19:42

I like your changes jurgens, in his best Betis' days IMO he could deserve something like DA 92, for me he was close to Quaresma, 1 point of difference IMO it's just enough, I'm not against something lower like 91 or the current 90.
About SA, 76 it's just enough I don't think he deserves higher, he wasn't better than the current Iniesta for example.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby jurgens » 2011 Aug 24, 05:52

Thanks for the feeback, updated.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby Korinov » 2012 Aug 11, 14:40

Joaquín 2002-2005

Attack: 78
Defence: 35
Balance: 76
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 87
Acceleration: 93
Response: 74
Agility: 90
Dribble Accuracy: 92
Dribble Speed: 91
Short Pass Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Speed: 73
Long Pass Accuracy: 77
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 80
Shot Power: 77
Shot Technique: 81
Free Kick Accuracy: 77
Curling: 80
Header: 72
Jump: 74
Technique: 86
Aggression: 85
Mentality: 69
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 71

Injury: C
Form: 4
WFA: 5
WFF: 4

* Dribbling
* Reaction
* Side

Trickster
Mazing Run
Cut Back Pass
Marauding
Shoulder Feint Skills
Turning Skills
Scissors Skills

It's what I've been using... some things are certainly debatable, LPA could go higher (maybe yellows), AGG could also be a bit higher. Kept BB in greens (despite Konami giving him low yellows) because he always tended to evade tackles and physical confrontations thanks to great agility, speed and ball control.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby jurgens » 2012 Aug 17, 22:54

I don't see a need for a full new set. See the discussions previously from xyder and myself about his shooting, I still feel that way, but I'll go ahead with your values. Same with tech and BB, but I'm positive on these. Hes always been a strong player, same with tech.. doesn't need a drop. Will update now.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby Korinov » 2012 Aug 17, 22:57

Thing is, I didn't know we had already a set when I was working on mine... almost posted on a new thread to be honest, but found this one (thankfully) so posted it here anyway. I don't really know about his BAL... yes he's always possessed a decent body strenght but his game back then was all about evading the oponent with his tricks and quick body movements, that's why I went for a value like 76. Although I don't really oppose him sitting higher.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby Korinov » 2012 Sep 30, 09:05



(vid's not mine eh, just pointing out to avoid possible confusion)

BTW I've come to accept the yellow BB Konami always gave him.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby jurgens » 2012 Sep 30, 10:03

Ugh I've been meaning to say some things share some thoughts for awhile after catching him vs madird nad barca recently, keep forgetting. I'll watch that vid and post up some things I think we can change.. if I remebr.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby jurgens » 2012 Oct 11, 04:58

Okay so, I originally wanted to take down agility to 90, but that was wrong, his body shifting from.. the weird way he does it won't be realistic with less agility. Secondly, he is really fast.. I dunno if it's more ACC more TS or both. I see nothing wrong with konamis 89 TS, he is really fast over distance, he could have more ACC aswell. His crossing is defintly good, he has a good eye for it and most of his crosses have a good idea behind them. I feel hes better than a 92 DA too.. imo hes close to red if not red. I view DA as the level of control they have aswell as close control as I've said previously, and his level of control is pretty much godly. And again I insit on a 82/83 for BB. And I do agree with higher shooting stats now, you were right, though not sure on what.

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Re: JOAQUÍN Sánchez | 2004-2006

Postby jurgens » 2012 Oct 11, 05:18

btw, heres what I'm using for around 2008 valencia days

Name: JOAQUIN

Club: ?
Number: ?
Position: SMF*, WF
Nationality: Spanish _esp
Age: 29 (xx-yy-1983)

Foot: R
Side: B

Length: 179
Weight: 75

Attack: 82
Defence: 40
Balance: 83
Stamina: 79
Top Speed: 84
Acceleration: 88
Response: 73
Agility: 87
Dribble Accuracy: 94
Dribble Speed: 90
Short Pass Accuracy: 80
Short Pass Speed: 72
Long Pass Accuracy: 83
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 78
Shot Power: 77
Shot Technique: 80
Free Kick Accuracy: 79
Curling: 82
Header: 75
Jump: 74
Technique: 90
Aggression: 85
Mentality: 71
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 68

Injury Tolerance: C
Condition/Fitness: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5

S01 - Marauding
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills
S19 - Scissors Skills
P05 - Mazing Run

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