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Ronaldinho | 2001-2003 | 2003-2006 | 2008-2010

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 12, 21:52

2001-2003

Nickname: "Dinho" | *El Mago de Porto Alegre* | *O Rei* | "Ronnie"

Club: Paris Saint-Germain



Growth type: Early/Lasting

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2003-2006

Nickname: "Dinho" | *El Mago de Porto Alegre* | *O Rei* | "Ronnie"

Club: FC Barcelona



Growth type: Early/Lasting

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2008-2010

Nickname: "Dinho" | *El Mago de Porto Alegre* | *O Rei* | "Ronnie"

Club: AC Milan



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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby sencesor » 2008 Dec 31, 02:34

* outside.

imo:

technique 98.

curl 95

mentality 73.

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Glorfindel Posted: Sep 30 2008, 11:47 PM wrote:curling 98 ? he can curve better than recoba? omg! wrooooooooong!

technique 99 ? Bergkamp has "only" 97....how come that Ronaldinho has better technique than Dennis and same to Maradona....come one!...you treat him like a God! he isn't...


jez Posted: Oct 1 2008, 12:21 AM wrote:classic stats are there to represent a single period of time
so in the 2 season that these stats are based on in fairness he was a godlike player


jez Posted: Oct 1 2008, 12:44 AM wrote:show me a couple of free kicks that the he curls so much the ball...

players don't change technique...either you have it or not...Bergkamp is the one that MAYBE deserves 99 at this value, Ronaldinho never had that much...I mean even in his good seasons he cannot be compared to Maradona's technique (99)


Glorfindel Posted: Oct 1 2008, 01:00 AM wrote:not because he's Maradona, I don't believe that old players are Gods...

I just think that Diego has better technique than Ronaldinho...I am sure he has or had


it's unfair to have his stats raised so much...maybe his consistency or condition...but technical stats dont change...only physical...


jez Posted: Oct 1 2008, 01:13 AM wrote:thats the whole point though
i don't really know how to word this but its like if you had never seen him play and then you watched him for one season in 2003 and then if the same thing happened and you watched him in 2007 you would rate his technique differently in each one. you are right in a way that you don't loose your technique but the stats are saying that due to his consistency in these seasons, this is what he appeared to have. if that makes any sense to you.


as_10 Posted: Oct 11 2008, 11:05 AM wrote:i think his FKA should go up at least 2 ponts, in his good days, he scored at least 4 FK every season, an in one season he scored 6, which i think is the record of La Liga


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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby Capone » 2009 Jan 04, 18:31

Technique 99? Guys, come on, his technique was never so good like Maradona's or Pele`s. I would suggest 97

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby as_10 » 2009 Jan 04, 18:35

DeFrenZ wrote:BB 83
RES 85
TEC 98

imo

* outside.

imo:

technique 98.

curl 95

mentality 73.

i have to agree with *outside and TEC
but i strongly disagree with the rest :x

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby Classical » 2009 Jan 08, 18:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfCTYSMzBb0

check this video from 1.46

I think he could deserve more than the actual values.

What about header= 78 and jumping=82?

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby S-J23 » 2009 Jan 09, 16:58

Capone wrote:Technique 99? Guys, come on, his technique was never so good like Maradona's or Pele`s. I would suggest 97


actually I think it was.. he absolutely controlled and slaved each and every ball that was played at him or the ones that he wanted to.. he simply never had any trouble with the first touch.. imagine Berbatov or Zlatan with absolute consistency..

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby as_10 » 2009 Jan 10, 12:15

Classical wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfCTYSMzBb0

check this video from 1.46

I think he could deserve more than the actual values.

What about header= 78 and jumping=82?

dunno about jump, but heading definetely not, hes aerial abilities were below average during his prime, and was in the last 2 years, in his decline, when he started scoring with it and using correctly

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby Classical » 2009 Jan 10, 14:52

ok but jump he at least knew how to jump with some power and grace

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby sencesor » 2009 Jan 16, 10:13

regardless of the debate on *outside (see *outside thread...) in general, & other suggestions: tech 98 (only pele, marado, & zidane should have 99 imo), curl 95 (more then enough), & men 73 (u can say alot of thing bout roni, hard worker though is definitely not one of them...), i think that hes absolutely warrant the *outside - was using it regularly to score & to make insane passes...

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby S-J23 » 2009 Jan 16, 11:29

I disagree absolutely with lower curl.. there aren't many players that can really curve the ball as perfectly as Ronaldinho.. and there are hardly any players that can really bend it better than him.. apart from prime Beckham of course..

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby sencesor » 2009 Jan 16, 12:09

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005
I disagree absolutely with lower curl.. there aren't many players that can really curve the ball as perfectly as Ronaldinho.. and there are hardly any players that can really bend it better than him.. apart from prime Beckham of course..


imho curl 95 suit him better, but o.k.

what bout tech (99 :arrow: 98) ?

men (79 :arrow: 73) ?

& *outside (!!!) ?

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby Capone » 2009 Jan 21, 16:47

With the technique values, I think that Maradona had the best technique ever. So what do you think about this?

99: Maradona
98: Pelé, Zidane
97: Ronaldinho

?

Curling 98 is also overrated, I suggest 96

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby Xyder » 2009 Jan 21, 18:27

Capone wrote:With the technique values, I think that Maradona had the best technique ever. So what do you think about this?

99: Maradona
98: Pelé, Zidane
97: Ronaldinho

?

Curling 98 is also overrated, I suggest 96


I agree with curling 96, but IMO:

99: Maradona, Zidane
98: Pelé, Ronaldinho

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Jan 21, 18:32

I think Rivaldo should at least get 96 his first touch was absolutely epic, and there's way more evidence for that than giving Pelé 98. I agree with 97/98 for Dinho. I don't know about curl, because though he defintely has it in abundance, he loved that toe smash.

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby as_10 » 2009 Jan 22, 22:12

sencesor wrote:men (79 :arrow: 73) ?

hell no! :shock:

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby sencesor » 2009 Jan 23, 01:33

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005
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men (79 73) ?


hell no! :shock:


and why is that?! he is the most lazy football player of modern football!! :mrgreen:

rijkaard fuc#ing spoiled him rotten at barca, they were playing defence like they were down one player... :D

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Jan 23, 04:27

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hEtEZcHtWPI&fmt=18 good video that could be used in the first post? 2:51 on... xD

He should have been the greatest of all time. :cry:

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby as_10 » 2009 Jan 23, 21:47

sencesor wrote:
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005
sencesor wrote:
men (79 73) ?


hell no! :shock:


and why is that?! he is the most lazy football player of modern football!! :mrgreen:

rijkaard fuc#ing spoiled him rotten at barca, they were playing defence like they were down one player... :D

if you take the last 2 years, then he should be under 70 for sure, but in his prime he was something like Messi(78) nowadays

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby sencesor » 2009 Jan 24, 01:32

sorry mate, but i seriously doubt that, and im not talking about the last two years, im talking about his prime - which imo, was the best player in the world at that time, :P but this is besides the point that he wouldnt do defence worth of sh#t... :D

im not saying he couldnt, but that he simply didnt.

and rijkaard let him getaway with it, like he let him get away with anything (inside the pitch & outside), as long as he did his magic. :)

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003/2005

Postby Oriello » 2009 Jan 24, 05:10

On this I agree with sencesor, Ronaldinho sometimes would chase down a player or two in a game if he was in sparkling form and help a little on the left, but most of the time he really was like Ibrahimovic is now, and stood around waiting for the rest of the team to sort out actual active defending, while R10 took a breather, and would come alive once a counter started or possession was won back.

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