Miloš Krasić

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Miloš Krasić

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 11, 23:57

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Made his class with the youth national team, he barely started playing with the Serbian Senior team yet he is considered as the best Serbian midfielder. A very fast player, skillful with the ball. A true poison for defenders as he just can't stop running and moving around the pitch. The adversary often use brutality to stop him and despite his height & size he isn't strong by any means : he's fragile in the physical duels. He still have to improve his passing ,creativity and teamwork then maybe Serbians could say we got a 'new Nedved'. His stamina could be increased but I noticed that he tends to disappear at the end of the games. ;)

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby coolactive » 2008 Dec 23, 07:21

Helios wrote:Image

Miloš Krasic

Club: CSKA Moscow
Number: 17
Position: SMF*, WG
Nationality: Serbian Image
Age: 23 [November 1, 1984]

Foot: Right
Side: Both

Length: 1.85 m
Weight: 72 Kg

Defence: 40
Stamina: 83
Dribble Speed: 84
Condition: 6

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. His stamina could be increased but I noticed that he tends to disappear at the end of the games. ;)


Defence should be a little lower - 38 or 37
Stamina lower then 83 , 79 or 80
Dribble Speed got to be lower - he is very precise in dribble but a dribble speed is not so high. He is not a running dribbler.
Condition should be set to 5 - I agree with you completely about his "dissapearence" towards the end of the game and this should be also corrected. btw, very very nice work :)

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby Re-arranged » 2008 Dec 23, 12:53

Defence shouldn't be lowered that much.
Stamina can be lowered to 81, but no lower he still can last the game.
Dribble speed has nothing to do with dribbling precision it's purely about running speed.
Condition is OK as it is, and it has nothing to do with disappearing during the game, it's purely about retaining physical condition from match to match.

But those stats defo need editing.

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby coolactive » 2008 Dec 23, 13:50

Here is my suggestion , only stats I think should to be corrected :

Defence : 40
Dribble Accuracy : 85
Dribble Speed : 80
Mentality : 71

Let us see where we can meet with these stats :)

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby Re-arranged » 2008 Dec 23, 15:00

I agree with dribble accuracy 85 , but why dribble speed 80? Speed is his main attribute and should defo be in high 80's and acceleration even in low 90's. I also believe his mentality isn't great, but 73 would be OK. I'd also increase his agility and balance. Decrease Curling and LP accuracy.

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby Helios » 2008 Dec 23, 17:41

I gave him higher values in acceleration/speed in my file ;) I didn't want to rate him that high in PSD before before getting more opinions. Let's summarize things :

Balance : 79 ? He is surprisingly light (72 Kg) for someone of his height.

Speed : 88
Acceleration : 91 - 92

He is a bolid but I still think that Yanbaev and Bystrov are faster than him maybe not in the first meters but in longer distances. (They have 90 and 91 respectively in speed).

Dribble accuracy : 85. I agree as well.
Dribble speed : 86 - 87 ?
Agility : 86
Mentality : 73.
Curling : 77 - 78 ?
Long passing accuracy : 76
Long passing speed : 75

What do you think about his technique ? The guy is nice technically but not flawless with the ball either, does it need a little boost or is it ok as it is with 83 ?

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby coolactive » 2008 Dec 23, 17:53

Considering Real wants him, they are propably counting on his assisting&breakthrough skills. In his last games, with Lithuania, Austria and firendly with Bulgaria he just "exploded" and showed his true potential. He scored twice, created so many chances but was a little, little bit selfish with a ball, took so many solo-dribblings unnecessary... His 25m shot against Austria stunned Manninger who afterwards managed to stay unbeaten with Juventus in CL. Again I think his dribble speed is a little high, he is not like Ashley Young (final minutes against Everton away) to make this kind of run, but he can surely make some defenders mad with right leg faints :)

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby Helios » 2008 Dec 23, 18:28

Yes he truly exploded lately. Robben was begging his club to recruit at least another winger. If a canterrra player is used in the classico, it should says a lot about the weakness of their bench even if we consider the injuries. There was a time where Real Madrid had Savio, Solari & McManaman (quality players and all of them internationals) sitting in the bench. It was called the "golden bench".

Now to get back to Krasic I would say that he got a pretty powerful shot and he gets a lot of scoring opportunities but he is wasteful in front of the goal, otherwise he would be scoring more goals.

I also think that 78 in ST is too generous. 76 - 75 would suffice. The dribbling star should help in reflecting his selfishness (coupled with a relatively low value in teamwork)

As for DS it's exceptional (to not say impossible) to see players as fast as him that slow (the value you suggested) when moving with the ball.

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby coolactive » 2008 Dec 23, 19:48

Well, I must say that I agree with you completely, after viewing some of his moves again on video...
So, Helios, please, could you assemble all this you suggested in "new" Krasic abilities and present them? Besides us 2, none seems to mind - so, my opinion is that we come to the mutual understanding regarding this matter :)

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby Re-arranged » 2008 Dec 23, 22:25

Helios wrote:I gave him higher values in acceleration/speed in my file ;) I didn't want to rate him that high in PSD before before getting more opinions. Let's summarize things :

Balance : 79 ? He is surprisingly light (72 Kg) for someone of his height.

Speed : 88
Acceleration : 91 - 92

He is a bolid but I still think that Yanbaev and Bystrov are faster than him maybe not in the first meters but in longer distances. (They have 90 and 91 respectively in speed).

Dribble accuracy : 85. I agree as well.
Dribble speed : 86 - 87 ?
Agility : 86
Mentality : 73.
Curling : 77 - 78 ?
Long passing accuracy : 76
Long passing speed : 75

What do you think about his technique ? The guy is nice technically but not flawless with the ball either, does it need a little boost or is it ok as it is with 83 ?


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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby Helios » 2008 Dec 24, 10:28

Edited him, thanks for the assistance.

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Mar 09, 10:11

I was surprised to see him play as to see that his stats are currently faster than Zhirkov(same TS but much higher Accel). Vs. Villa to me they both looked fast, but I would have thought that Zhirkov would have had a higher TS at least :?

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby coolactive » 2009 Mar 09, 10:21

So, are you suggesting TS to be lower here and higher at Zhirkov page ?
Imo Speed Acc is fine, but we really need to talk about TS...

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Mar 09, 10:23

IMO (I am admittingly not an expert of this player especially), I think that Zhirkov's Accl could probably go up in the 88/89 range, and TS possibly a point or 2 higher than Krasic :?

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby Sekularac » 2009 Mar 09, 10:27

For me TS 86-87 should be fine.This is good point of view, I think we should discuss more comparing players with similar abilities

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby coolactive » 2009 Mar 09, 10:40

Cool.
I suggest Top Speed : 87
Accel. : 92

And 4 Zhirkov Top Speed : 89

How does it sound ?

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby PMC » 2009 Jul 01, 21:56

I think what makes Krasic a great player is his incredible DS... like hes very fast but he doesnt lose any speed during his dribbles... the thing is that he doesnt show skills when he speeds off but does neat tricks in one on ones

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby coolactive » 2009 Jul 02, 13:10

PMC wrote:I think what makes Krasic a great player is his incredible DS... like hes very fast but he doesnt lose any speed during his dribbles... the thing is that he doesnt show skills when he speeds off but does neat tricks in one on ones


I agree with you there. As I can see, his DS is very close with his TS. Do you agree that we raise his DS for 1 point up ?

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby PMC » 2009 Jul 02, 13:24

from what I could see in the NT games he deserves high 80s in DS minimum...

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Re: Miloš KRASIC

Postby coolactive » 2009 Jul 02, 18:08

Well, I dont think he is in "God" area (90s) but he could receive one point up @ DS
So, DS : 88, same as TS. Anyone besides me agree with this ?

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