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Alexandre Song

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby kendees » 2009 Mar 04, 17:55

Agility: 56
He is an elephant and this value makes him like in a real life! ;)

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Seriously, agility needs to be decreased a bit, he can't have it as high as 82, it needs to be something like 76, it makes him quite accurate in the game, he is like an elephant, he is really unagile, Sol Campbell seems agiler sometimes than him. Only this update he needs I think.

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby deity86 » 2009 Mar 04, 23:41

I haven't really paid much attention to his Agility, but just comparing him to Diaby who has 82 aswell and Fabregas who has one more point at 83 maybe you have a good point. It's something I'll watch out for a bit more now though :D

Another point.. I know he's a decent passer but is he worthy of a 78 for SPA? He seems to try alot of simple passes prefering to let others be a bit more creative. I do remember a few seasons back when he was on loan at Charlton that he seemed to be more of a passing midfielder but now I don't see it as much. Any opinions?

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby kendees » 2009 Mar 05, 14:26

Yeah.. definitely! He can't be on Denilson's level at all. 74 and I'm so nice to him.

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby quincy_huang » 2009 Mar 08, 02:19

kendees wrote:Yeah.. definitely! He can't be on Denilson's level at all. 74 and I'm so nice to him.

actually..i would say 77 or possibly 76
we rated Djourou for 78 and dont forget he is higher than song for 10cm+
i think 1-2 points lower than him is fair..?

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby kendees » 2009 Mar 08, 10:46

quincy_huang wrote:
kendees wrote:Yeah.. definitely! He can't be on Denilson's level at all. 74 and I'm so nice to him.

actually..i would say 77 or possibly 76
we rated Djourou for 78 and dont forget he is higher than song for 10cm+
i think 1-2 points lower than him is fair..?

I was talk about SPA there. :D And I don't think SPA has anything to do with player's physique. :)

I'd stay with:
Agility: 76
Short pass acc.: 74

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby quincy_huang » 2009 Mar 08, 14:09

kendees wrote:
quincy_huang wrote:
kendees wrote:Yeah.. definitely! He can't be on Denilson's level at all. 74 and I'm so nice to him.

actually..i would say 77 or possibly 76
we rated Djourou for 78 and dont forget he is higher than song for 10cm+
i think 1-2 points lower than him is fair..?

I was talk about SPA there. :D And I don't think SPA has anything to do with player's physique. :)

I'd stay with:
Agility: 76
Short pass acc.: 74

lol sorry i was mis reading

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby dobiqwolf » 2009 Mar 09, 09:13

He had a decent game, man of the match if i am not misaken, now if he can keep it up against premiership teams he will be first team material.

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby deity86 » 2009 Mar 09, 10:03

It was like watching a different Alex Song yesterday :) I know it was against a Burnley team who didn't really play how they can but he was dominant. He just seemed to be everywhere, intercepting passes in his own half one second then up the other end getting assists. It's probably the most I've seen him attack for Arsenal :o I would say from memory, it was definitely his best game in an Arsenal shirt.

Not just based on the cup game but I've been watching him closer the last few months, if he carries on progressing like this he could do with a little boost in Response. He's turning into a ball winner, he seems to be reading the game and being in the right place at the right time. He's got so many interceptions in the last few months. This isn't a suggestion yet, just something to look out for.

Back to the suggestions for Agility and SPA.. I definitely agree with SPA, but I'm still not sure enough about Agility. 6 points is a big drop and a 76 puts him on par with the likes of Samba and Pogatetz, I know Song isn't exactly the most agile player you'll ever see but is he level with these? Maybe a 78, level with Djourou would be better?

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby Sekularac » 2009 Mar 09, 10:36

I agree with you for yesterday's match, but he is inconsistent, in some previous games he was simply useless.About AG I agree, and I'm considering ACC decrease to 80.He is really stuggling to reach top speed.
Because of inconsistency I would wait a while to see him in EPL games, than to modify his stats :)

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby deity86 » 2009 Mar 09, 10:39

I know it was only one game, but I noticed yesterday about your Acceleration suggestion. He's really just not that quick off the mark.

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby deity86 » 2009 Mar 11, 10:26

So, suggestions are..

Acceleration: 80
Agility: 78
Short Pass Accuracy: 74

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby Sekularac » 2009 Mar 11, 11:21

deity86 wrote:So, suggestions are..

Acceleration: 80
Agility: 76-78
Short Pass Accuracy: 74


These are fine for me :)

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby kendees » 2009 Mar 11, 14:15

Yes, seems good... although, agility could be definitely 78 :) Maybe I'd suggest slight increaseof his response, all this seasson he has great reading the game together with his great positioning makes him un-beat-able in Arsenal's CMFs, so for me response could be atleast 83-84.

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby deity86 » 2009 Mar 11, 15:04

Although I do agree with you on Response I would still wait a little while just to make sure he can do it over a longer period of time. Unless other people agree of course.

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Mar 11, 16:01

kendees wrote:Yes, seems good... although, agility could be definitely 78 :) Maybe I'd suggest slight increaseof his response, all this seasson he has great reading the game together with his great positioning makes him un-beat-able in Arsenal's CMFs, so for me response could be atleast 83-84.


It was only game kendees :P . I don't think he has consistently shown that level of response okay maybe an 82 but not more yet, imo I'd also drop acceleration into the greens imo and I would deinetley put him above Djourou in terms of turning imo.

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby deity86 » 2009 Mar 11, 16:27

I think Djourou is actually deceivingly agile for his height, I don't see Alex being too much better in this department. As for Acceleration, what number were you thinking of? Maybe it would be better to drop his TS by 1 to 82 (level with Bendtner & Arteta) and have Acceleration: 80?

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Mar 11, 16:52

But he is quite fast over distance imo I don't see any problem with

Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 79

What do you think?

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby kendees » 2009 Mar 11, 17:00

I has no problem with 80. He isn't fast, but not slow as Crouch, on the first metres, that's what 80 makes him IMO. It siuts him well...

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Re: Alexandre SONG

Postby thierryswar » 2009 Mar 18, 18:10

i think that :

Top speed: 83
Acc: 80

suits him well and agility round 77 seems fair to me

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