Zlatan Ibrahimović

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Zlatan Ibrahimović

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby PanteraIFD » 2012 Jun 15, 20:31

OMG, He is very strong, the British did not win one in his body. At least 95.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby bitz » 2012 Jun 15, 20:42

He held off against 2 in multiple occasions today, guys like Lescott, Johnson. He can stay on his feet where most players can't, and when he stumbles he usually regains his footing. If he doesn't deserve red BB I don't know who does.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby čale » 2012 Jun 15, 21:04

Wilfried, Vitesse, i saw the dude holding off three defenders like they're nothing, and he still continued to run with the ball :lol:

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby CHarper » 2012 Jun 15, 21:14

I have rarely seen a player with tremendous BB, others fell like pines bolus, and he was still standing!

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby ingus » 2012 Jun 15, 21:55

didn't really see the match so I don't know what exactly he did, but it sounds like what he was doing all season long at AC. Couldn't see him under a 94. And response is too high, if you wanan make him lazy that high response wont help that

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby čale » 2012 Jun 15, 22:07

as i said on the last page, white RES and high 60's TW are needed to replicate his lazy ass attitude...

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Helios » 2012 Jun 15, 22:53

His strength when it comes to shield the ball is uberhuman, no value in PES (no matter how high it is) could replicate this due to the limitations of the game physics. Persistent defenders just end up crashing on the ground.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby milanillo » 2012 Jun 15, 23:04

What a strong body he has . He still has that strong budy . Today he played a nice match but he lost . But I think his BB can go up . Something like 95 or 96 .

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby paulLFC » 2012 Jun 16, 11:09

I agree, his strength is unreal. 96-97 based on last nights performance...throwing Johnson and Lescott around like they were kids

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby stavrello7 » 2012 Jun 16, 11:26

paulLFC wrote:I agree, his strength is unreal. 96-97 based on last nights performance...throwing Johnson and Lescott around like they were kids


Maybe I agree, maybe not.. stats should be an average value, not players best value imo.. because we have to do with different condition arrows
We discussed here in past about his BB, for me no problem to see him with red number

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Korinov » 2012 Jun 16, 11:38

Red BB is a must. I also agree with Cale's suggestions regarding RES and TW.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Kerry » 2012 Jun 16, 11:40

stavrello7 wrote:
paulLFC wrote:I agree, his strength is unreal. 96-97 based on last nights performance...throwing Johnson and Lescott around like they were kids


Maybe I agree, maybe not.. stats should be an average value, not players best value imo.. because we have to do with different condition arrows
We discussed here in past about his BB, for me no problem to see him with red number

Same here. I don't mind a high orange but red? Not sure.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby furymaker » 2012 Jun 16, 11:50

he is strong , but wouldn't go as far as 97 , i'd go with 95 , i still remember games against Inter in CL when he still played for Barcelona , Lucio and Samuel ate him alive

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby zuo » 2012 Jun 16, 20:23

i disagree. that should be replicated by arrows
And balancing stats between leagues.
fiorentina's natali was able to shoulder barge Ibra almost all the Times
in the match of this may....i disagree with anything over 92.
i know that , well sometimes true, there's a tendency to find standout values
For some players to replicate them .....but doesen't work always.
Chiellini as example got usually beaten by Ibra (nowadays)....but if you put Ibra
To a 94 BB he would be always beaten.
take in account the effect that DA has when shielding the ball.
i honestly use him with 92 in Pes 2011(now that i lowered agility)
and even 90 in older versions

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby čale » 2012 Jun 16, 20:35

seriously? matri was able to withstand natali as well the whole match and wasn't beaten even once at the artemio franchi by him...regarding the Chiellini vs Ibra issue, if i recall correctly in the last couple of years Ibra was the one lying down on the floor and bitching around and was mostly invisible when confronted with Giorgio (i'm not here implying that chiellini needs a higher bb cause of that i just said that cause you said it was the other way around). as for Ibra's BB he deserves a 94 be it as a standout value or not, he's simply one of the strongest players atm.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Defo » 2012 Jun 16, 21:12

Agree with 94 BB, white RES and mid-60's TW.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby vinnie » 2012 Jun 16, 21:48

Since it seems an update is in order, just wanna bring these thoughts back to discussion. This was from thursday.

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I'd say your value could be even lower!
Also, i think he should be at lower AGI, agree with Epsi and zuo, 76 AGI is a better value for him. RVP is at 79, and i think theres more then a -1 difference between them.

Some more suggestions, from what i think of Ibra,

-Thinking that his TS is a little overdone. I think he's better at the Konami value of 84. Maybe +1 to 85. 86 puts him par with Neymar, which i don't think he's quite at in terms of speed. He can be fast though, just looks odd.
-Could his STA be green? pretty lazy guy, tires quickly, immobile...
-Is his DS underrated? I don't think he is THAT slow on the ball, more like 79-80 in this area.
-Why is his Jump so high? he's 195 cm with 84 JMP, he should win every single aerial ball, but he sucks in the air. Liking Konami's 78 here.
-And another point, on his RES... is it so good? I mean, RES is along with being an ability, also a style thing right? He isn't reactive at all i think. I don't think he should be even yellow at 80, more like K's 75. It would also better replicate his laziness. (honestly i like alot from konami's Zlatan)


Agree with you vinnie.. i like more konami's default for STA, JUMB, RES
and yes for better DS with yellow numbers


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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby bitz » 2012 Jun 17, 06:30

Tbh I like his current TS&DS combo. That TS helps him get the ball back ingame, kinda adds up to his strength. And I agree with an orange DA as I've said again, in the lines of 90/91 with TEC being lowered to 93/94. ATK in reds is questionable IMO.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Fuanzec » 2012 Jun 17, 14:09

Agree with 95 BB, He was like adult next to kids defending, when the adult throw away a kid with his balance.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Fantasista » 2012 Jun 17, 22:28

So what with the balance update? It's definetely needed.

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