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Re: Joe HART

Postby Kerry » 2012 Apr 22, 20:59

I'd give him more TEC, sometimes I've seen him kills balls like nothing. His only problem is consistency.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby CHarper » 2012 Apr 22, 21:09

honestly, with the update that Hart has received, is not as spectacular stopping shots, is very unsafe to catch the ball.
I still think he has better response than you gave him.
GK, less defeated in the EPL.
it is true that in real life does not catch the ball, the cleared, but cleared well.
today for the Wolves, received a frontal shot and responded well.
In the game PSD, this shots, Hart does not stop them, why?
had two good raids today, shooting and jumping cat to stop the firing of head.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby CHarper » 2012 Apr 23, 17:26

Recently, Hart has been selected as the best goalkeeper in the English Premier League roster in the "Team of the Year"
is not an opinion, just mine. but of the majority.

PREMIER LEAGUE TEAM OF THE YEAR

Joe Hart (Man City); Kyle Walker (Tottenham), Vincent Kompany (Man City), Fabricio Coloccini (Newcastle), Leighton Baines (Everton); David Silva (Man City), Yaya Toure (Man City), Gareth Bale (Tottenham), Scott Parker (Tottenham); Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Wayne Rooney (Man Utd).

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Luisito » 2012 Apr 23, 21:49

Hart is surely 1 of best 5 keepers in Premier in this team of year could be also Papiss Cisse , clearly the best striker in the secound half of the season

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Kerry » 2012 Apr 23, 22:08

CHarper wrote:Recently, Hart has been selected as the best goalkeeper in the English Premier League roster in the "Team of the Year"
is not an opinion, just mine. but of the majority.

Awards and such things are irrelevant to stats. Being in the TOTY doesn't make him a superstar anyway, and I'd rather have Vorm over Hart in my PL team.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Apr 23, 22:28

Awareness DEF or BAL??

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Re: Joe HART

Postby CHarper » 2012 Apr 24, 04:46

Awards and such things are irrelevant to stats. Being in the TOTY doesn't make him a superstar anyway, and I'd rather have Vorm over Hart in my PL team.


then I take it that you do not consider the "golden ball", "fifa best player" and other awards that may be granted to any other player,
these awards are the deserving player in their efforts, professionalism, performance on the field, and influence in the team's results.
then Messi and CR7, not lead the stats of today.
well, is your opinion, Worm is a good GK but his team that is half a table, maybe that influences their little press, and makes it less attractive

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Kerry » 2012 Apr 24, 10:50

MaxPower wrote:Awareness DEF or BAL??

Whenever I see a goalkeeper, BAL is the default option for some reason. So maybe BAL is the best option for keepers.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Steven Gerrard » 2012 May 05, 21:11

Joe Hart Better than W Szczesny13
And Diego Benaglio1 in Keeper Skills.
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Re: Joe HART

Postby vinnie » 2012 May 05, 21:19

not me personally, but you'll probably find many who will.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby s-cobar » 2012 May 05, 21:24

Steven Gerrard wrote:Joe Hart Better than W Szczesny13
And Diego Benaglio1 in Keeper Skills.
Response red ..95
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Do you agree ?



do you know what KS effect? Do you consider the def. and res value?

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Re: Joe HART

Postby tomaster » 2012 May 05, 21:27

Yes, he's by far the best keeper in PL and should be rated higher than Cech and Reina.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby furymaker » 2012 May 05, 21:33

Better than Cech ? lol

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Re: Joe HART

Postby CHarper » 2012 May 05, 23:06

furymaker wrote:Better than Cech ? lol

in my opinion, Hart is good,
but better than he is Cech
Hart is young and has much to learn,
his statistics are good for now, do not need any change, I like his game in the PES

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Re: Joe HART

Postby vinnie » 2012 Jun 11, 22:02

honestly... i've always thought his positioning to be mediocre at best. I'd say his DEF should be no more then 87

I always use seb's view most often, here it is so you understand what i mean of def.
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S-cobar wrote:Defense:
We have defense last rates as the pure positional sense of a goalkeeper. in my eyes it`s one point. but defense is the main ability of a goalkeeper in his overall play. it is also the positional play but it is also how quickly it returns to the legs, if he has foiled a chance. as it reduces the angle. When he comes out at a corner or a cross. It is the control of the penalty area. because we must also note its teamwork, because the counts in the control of the penalty area as well, but defense has the larger effect.

it is the combined total denfensive behavior. the higher the value the more likely he knows what he has done. makes decisions better and above all, he decides quickly (a point that was previously assessed with response). in the end you can see the defintion here just as the defintion of a field player.


by that definition, i think it can be agreed as one of hart's weaknesses, he is often very poorly positioned (and bailed out by his RES), and has little control of his box, and is slow to his feet.

I'd even say he's more accurately an 85 for DEF, he isn't outsanding in this area at all in my eyes.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby CHarper » 2012 Jun 15, 20:47

85 def? :?
if you look at videos of the goals conceded, the vast majority of them, he had no guilt.
I also disagree with 86 now. :shock:
em deserves a 87 or 88 maximum.
he is not a neat reading of plays such as Buffon, or other GK +90 DEF! ..
but Hart points to it, is improving
in this game against Sweden and the previous against France, he has responded well to the chances that their intervention was necessary

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Re: Joe HART

Postby ballack13 » 2012 Jun 26, 02:07

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Surely this must be his new photo.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby CHarper » 2012 Jul 01, 13:56

GKS why 86? .. I understand that Hart did not catch the ball with perfection but 86 is a bit low, maybe a 87/88.
the 90 I seemed a bit exaggerated
I have always believed that he is "pure reflection" does not have a neat game reading, nor is it an excellent hunter of balls (usually always clearing them or throw them out) considering that he was forced by the middle-distance shots, but his reaction it is good.
I'm not asking for a raise, just a comment after seeing his performance in Euro

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Re: Joe HART

Postby vinnie » 2012 Jul 01, 16:16

I have always believed that he is "pure reflection" does not have a neat game reading, nor is it an excellent hunter of balls (usually always clearing them or throw them out) considering that he was forced by the middle-distance shots, but his reaction it is good.

His reaction is good. So he has 93 RES, i see no problem there.

GKS why 86? .. I understand that Hart did not catch the ball with perfection but 86 is a bit low, maybe a 87/88.
the 90 I seemed a bit exaggerated

Why 86 GKS you ask? well you answered it within your own question "Hart did not catch the ball with perfection". His handling is truly not much better then average at best in my opinion. Seems like you only think 86 GKS is too low because for a goalie like hart he must have oranges! :P I personally find 86 GKS to be generous even.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby CHarper » 2012 Jul 01, 20:12

in the Euro has been required midway shooting, has diverted or rejected, I think it's the only thing he could have done, because the shots were powerful, but with the other shots, has caught well, unlike Buffon he If you catch the ball until with one hand.
but I believe that GKS ​​could be 87
about: TW ... "One of the MOST complex player attributes, a player's rating is a measure Teamwork how well I can of Interact With His teammates.
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Hart interacts well with his defenders, maintaining communication and all that, 75 is not deserved, maybe 78 or 79 as before



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