čale's stats thread: Fernando Torres

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čale's stats thread: Fernando Torres

Postby čale » 2011 Oct 03, 15:40

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby jurgens » 2012 Apr 26, 20:32

Looks like a great ibra set. I don't know about ACC.. he is so hard to rate in this regard imo... incsositent. About passing... I like the idea and it's the same I had.. but I'm never really sure on it. As while he is a great technical/vision passer, he does miss place a lot of passes. But the quality of his passer are over and 84. About tech.. I really don't see the need for the drop.. I fully belive hes very close to 97. Just the other day vs bologna he made some crazy control inside the box like it was nothing... I don't think anyone in esle in europe other than messi can make traps like he can.

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby čale » 2012 Apr 26, 20:43

like i said regarding ibra, this is what i'm testing currently in my OF and i just decided to post it as there was some discussion in Ibra's thread that the current set plays badly. i've used KONAMI's as a benchmark and just slightly tweaked certain stats which i feel were correct and included some of my ideas in it (like BB, passing, ACC, RES, TW) and i've left TECH on the default value as i'm not quite certain of him deserving an 97, but he's up there all right, i've not been overly amazed by his trapping this season (by his standards that is) but he's still a red there for sure, i'm really not sure what to assign to him there thus i've decided to stick with the 94. about passing, you're completely right, you never now what to expect of him, but then, out of nowhere he does one of his magnificent passes splitting the defence, i.e. vs Cro a few months back, the ball for R. Elm was absolutely magnificent, he was surrounded by three Cro players on around 30 meters diagonally right from goal (from his perspective) and he just stood there and just toe poked the ball and put Elm one on one with the keeper and he scored. there's a zillion of examples like that of his passing, he's truly magnificent, but as you said inconsistent...as for ACC, well i really can't find to be over a 78, all he does is those short i can't even call them bursts as he moves about three meters tops before passing after it, it's somewhat implemented in his play style...

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby 21fadhil » 2012 Apr 27, 01:02

I'm sure that he still deserves red ST.That stat is easily the strongest point in his play alongside his power.

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby jurgens » 2012 Apr 27, 05:26

yeah, I'd agree with that. It's nothing something you really lose.. I just don't think he often has the chance. His volley at the edge of the box a few weeks back comes to mind.

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby čale » 2012 Apr 27, 07:24

i'm assuming (actually i'm certain) that you're talking about this:



maybe it was a mistake to go below an 95 but, yet again, this season he rarely showed that kind of skill apart from that goal (from what i know of/familiar with).

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby 7oodam » 2012 Apr 27, 10:02

Well I have a few comments, the values that are wrong IMO are TEC DA and WFA, 5? are you sure about it? I think his ST is fine, but his passing is a bit overrated 84 would suffice, but the rest is fine

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby čale » 2012 Apr 27, 10:55

i wouldn't dare say that values are "wrong" like you implied. it's the Alternatives thread.

i've already explained TECH.

DA, he doesn't display anywhere near orange DA at all, why give him something which he doesn't display?

WFA 5? what's wrong with that? the way he uses his left foot and with which consistency and accuracy, 5 is enough to replicate that, and going on a 6, he'll start to dribble more than often with his left which simply isn't the truth.

passing was already discussed and said that he shows that kind of quality albeit inconsistently, actually inconsistently isn't quite the correct word to describe his passing abilities.

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby 7oodam » 2012 Apr 27, 11:36

He misplaces a lot of easy passes, and I watched every Milan game this season, anyway I think 5 for WFA is low, he's scored quite a few left footers at milan (palermo, Lecce) and I think you can't do that with 5 (in pes 2012)

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby čale » 2012 Apr 27, 11:46

oh you're more than capable of scoring with a 5, especially with the stats Ibra has...i played PES more than half a decade with KONAMI default stats and quite a lot of 3's and 4's coupled with green or even gray values for shooting and never found it quite too hard (of course in normal circumstances, not extreme ones) to score inside the box.

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby 7oodam » 2012 Apr 27, 11:49

Maybe because you're playing on PS2, It's quite different from PC and PS3

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby čale » 2012 Apr 27, 11:52

i play both, on PC i play against the CPU and test, on the PS2 against friends and sometimes test to see the differences.

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby 7oodam » 2012 Apr 27, 12:07

OK, as you like, but I think 6 would be better, but after all this is your set

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Re: čale's stats thread: Gonzalo Higuain & Zlatan Ibrahimovi

Postby jurgens » 2012 Apr 27, 12:09

I'm playing on PC with WFA of 5 and is never a problem in a player, I don't have ibra on 5.. but just saying.

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Re: čale's stats thread: RONALDO & MESSI

Postby Los Muchachos » 2012 Apr 29, 08:09

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cale1991 wrote:^ there was an article on a croatian sports portal, on the 2nd place was Didac Vila (240-ish) from Espanyol and on the 3rd place was Joan Verdu (230-ish)


dude the guy have the 32 better passing percentage of the league, taking account he is the most incisive passer in the world... 84% or so

Man it was who concedes most times the possession and Messi Was on top. 2nd was didac vila and so on.

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Re: čale's stats thread: RONALDO & MESSI

Postby Los Muchachos » 2012 Apr 29, 08:10

Basilio wrote:
cale1991 wrote:^ there was an article on a croatian sports portal, on the 2nd place was Didac Vila (240-ish) from Espanyol and on the 3rd place was Joan Verdu (230-ish)



Man it was, who concedes most times the possession and Messi Was on top. 2nd was didac vila and so on. Not whos passes are wrong.

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Re: čale's stats thread: MARCELO Vieira da Silva Júnior

Postby čale » 2012 Apr 30, 18:59

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Name: Marcelo Vieira da Silva Júnior
Shirt Name: Marcelo
Shirt Number: #12
Team: Real Madrid CF
League: Liga BBVA
Nationality: Brazilian _bra
Height: 174 cm
Weight: 75 kg
Age: 23
Stronger foot: Left foot
Registered Position: LB
Other Positions: LMF

Attack: 79
Defence: 64
Balance: 76
Stamina: 87
Top Speed: 87
Acceleration: 89
Response: 74
Agility: 84
Dribble Accuracy: 89
Dribble Speed: 86
Short Pass Accuracy: 81
Short Pass Speed: 75
Long Pass Accuracy: 83
Long Pass Speed: 80
Shot Accuracy: 73
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 74
Free Kick Accuracy: 68
Curling: 76
Header: 68
Jump: 75
Technique: 88
Aggression: 85
Mentality: 75
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 77

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 7/8
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 5

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Dribbling
Sliding

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Re: čale's stats thread: Marcelo Vieira da Silva Júnior

Postby Rogatto27 » 2012 Apr 30, 23:05

I think Ment coul be 2 or 3 points lower. And DEF could be 67.

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Re: čale's stats thread: Marcelo & Kaká

Postby čale » 2012 May 02, 16:23

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Name: Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite
Shirt Name: Kaká
Shirt Number: #8
Team: Real Madrid CF
League: Liga BBVA
Nationality: Brazilian _bra
Height: 186 cm
Weight: 78 kg
Age: 30
Stronger foot: Right foot
Registered Position: AMF
Other Positions: SS

Attack: 87
Defence: 45
Balance: 80
Stamina: 78
Top Speed: 86
Acceleration: 81
Response: 80
Agility: 82
Dribble Accuracy: 89
Dribble Speed: 86
Short Pass Accuracy: 87
Short Pass Speed: 83
Long Pass Accuracy: 83
Long Pass Speed: 83
Shot Accuracy: 82
Shot Power: 81
Shot Technique: 80
Free Kick Accuracy: 75
Curling: 82
Header: 72
Jump: 75
Technique: 88
Aggression: 80
Mentality: 74
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 79

Injury Tolerance: C
Condition/Fitness: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Dribbling
Tactical Dribbling
Reaction
Passing

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Re: čale's stats thread: Marcelo & Kaká

Postby TBD » 2012 May 02, 18:40

I like your Marcelo very much, I like your value in RES and DEF very much, but why you rate Marcelo' AGG with that low ?

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Re: čale's stats thread: Marcelo & Kaká

Postby Al-bulldozer » 2012 May 02, 19:15

I think Kaka deserves 6 for WFA as well as WFF . He uses his left foot well and sometimes he makes nice passes and shots with his left foot .

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