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Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 15:45

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby RB7 » 2009 Feb 08, 09:19

Added *Long Throw.

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby Markulur » 2009 Feb 15, 20:50

Well, I'm not really sure, but I saw some things of him and he plays good with the twice foots... I'm wrong?

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby RB7 » 2009 Feb 15, 21:38

Markulur wrote:Well, I'm not really sure, but I saw some things of him and he plays good with the twice foots... I'm wrong?


He's not really bad with his leftie, he plays LB most of the times but only WFA should go up IMO.
Also raised Aggression ;)

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby RMOliveira » 2009 Feb 16, 21:59

I suggest a BB raise by at least 1 Points. He has the same height than Roland and 14 Kg more, and in every game he in all the phisique duels so i think that raise is fair. And if an 81 is nice for his Heading i think jump could be a litle higher, like 82~84.
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Re: David LUIZ

Postby RB7 » 2009 Feb 16, 22:03

RMOliveira wrote:I suggest a BB raise by at least 1 Points. He has the same height than Roland and 14 Kg more, and in every game he in all the phisique duels so i think that raise is fair. And if an 81 is nice for his Heading i think jump could be a litle higher, like 82~84.
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Well look at his height.. he is very tall and with a higher jump he would be too good in air ;)
About Balance, he falls too easily sometimes and isn't as strong as Suazo for example.

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby CowSimao » 2009 Feb 22, 22:36

Suazo falls down way more times than Luiz.

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby RMOliveira » 2009 Mar 11, 22:42

I believe that he is clearly stronger than 83, he almost look like a wrestler. The coach recently said that he has one of the best phisical tests in strenght, speed and jump, Luisão also said that David Luiz best asset was strenght.
I suggest 86.

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby p1rha » 2009 Mar 12, 01:33

Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot frequency: 4 :?:

for a right footed player who plays left back?
&maybe he's just a bit faster not shure...

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby Prata » 2009 Mar 12, 09:37

Sorry I just can´t agree with taht BB value. BTW I think his WFF and WFA should be 55

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby RB7 » 2009 Mar 12, 12:08

Honestly I'd only say WFF 5.. giving him more just because he plays LB is simply stupid or else we should give Hélton a green value for dribbling because he dribbles.

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby RMOliveira » 2009 May 02, 21:22

I sugest a smal raise in shot acc and tec, that are very clear for the ones that saw last few games of him.

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby jmg721 » 2009 May 07, 07:56

I have a problem with his update. It's my fundamental objection that when a player goes from a registered CB to SB.....there are always the same changes....which are raising in physical attributes....because they have an opportunity to show them off more in space.

But there were no lowering in technical aspects. Now he is a 79 in def for an a somewhat aggressive SB....which would be world class. I don't think that is the case.

I suggest either leaving CB as reg position, or lower defense....at least ;)

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby RB7 » 2009 May 07, 08:29

No mate the question on this guy was.. he's a class CB that was forced to play as a SB and he is doing really well, he's pacey, strong and agile and can pull off some amazing things.. I don't think he should get his defence value down also because when he plays CB he's still very good and he needs such value to help too since he has a very high agression for a CB.. but he often plays in both positions and he does seem to play like he does in a match.

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby RB7 » 2009 May 07, 08:42

Agility dropped in 1.

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby tamaguchi_japa » 2009 May 07, 11:49

isn't he a CB who plays in SB? because when i see him, he is always CB.

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby RB7 » 2009 May 07, 17:49

Yes he's originally a CB but he is now the owner of the LB spot and is playing much more often as a LB.

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby jmg721 » 2009 May 07, 18:15

IMO these are tough cases....like Radu, Grygera...

I think in this sort of case I'd probably either suggest moving him back to CB, and lowering AGG, or lowering defense. I just don't think it is fair for him to have this sort of values, and we moved guys like Grygera & Radu down because we decided to make them registered CBs.

As far as a global ladder his def would be world class :ugeek:

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby RB7 » 2009 May 07, 18:25

Well what's your point? He's a really classy CB and a pretty good sideback.. he's nuts and deserves such aggression.. as a CB he's really classy so he also deserves such defence.
Besides, in a global ladder he would be a CB and not a SB.. if it's about being a registered SB.. well ok, it's just that he's playing much more often as a LB but he really is originally a CB. In similar cases like Gonçalo Brandão, some were dropped to consider him more of a SB.. but this guy is really classy as a CB and if he's good in both.

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Re: David LUIZ

Postby p1rha » 2009 May 07, 19:11

imo there's no reason to give him LB as his registered position, he is a center back (maybe a libero) and that's it. it's like changing maxi pereira, doesn't make sense just because he as to play mostly in a position that it's not his favourite. And i'm shure DLuiz could play on the right side as well, that left side preference is absolutly dictated by the coach, and doesn't coorespond to the true preference of the player, i guess david would be more or, at least, as confortable in the right as in the left ***(shit, my mistake i though he had left side as a preference)

but don't deminish his technical atributes, that's what makes him our little beckenbauer, david has better feet than many midfielders, excelent ball control, and he's always wiling to attack. i would also take away the *middle shooting.

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