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André Schürrle

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby b1809 » 2011 May 14, 21:57

I think he needs an update after this season. He seems stronger in the end of this season. His BB can go up to 79/80. He uses his body great to block the defenders and keep them away from the ball. Also he seems very very fast on the first meters. So I think we can go up 1/2 in accleration. 88/89 would fix him very well. His TS is okay, he is not that fast.
I also think that he can also get 83/84 in DS & 86/87 in DS. He is very fast with the ball and has an good first touch. His style when he dribbles seems very easy but it´s effective.
His pass-stats fix him very well.

His Sa seems very realistic but his SP & ST is a little bit low. He has more power is his right foot, so I think 84 is the right value for him.
His ST should be orange too, I thnik 80 woukd fix him very well. He scoored from diccicult posions.

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Kruger13 » 2011 May 29, 22:28

I think his style of play is very similar like Thomas Müller

He seems stronger in the end of this season. His BB can go up to 79/80

i agree with you on that, if with consider his weight for me can fix it good

I also think that he can also get 83/84 in DS & 86/87 in DS. He is very fast with the ball and has an good first touch. His style when he dribbles seems very easy but it´s effective.

I think you wanted to say DA on the first DS (and not DS two times :) ), im not sure on those values he is fast but i dont see that huge between them (vs Müller), specially i can saw both playing vs Uruguay and for me Thomas looked faster, but it can be only my appreciation

His Sa seems very realistic but his SP & ST is a little bit low. He has more power is his right foot, so I think 84 is the right value for him.
His ST should be orange too, I thnik 80 woukd fix him very well. He scoored from diccicult posions.

I could also agree with you on this, but i think that an 77/83/79 (SA/SP/SA) could fix him better, maybe 80 on ST can be ok for me, but like i said it before is my appreciation and it can be easily wrong...

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Fiddy » 2011 Jul 02, 14:59

are you guys sure he needs S14 - Speed Merchant ?

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Diego » 2011 Oct 01, 13:13

Fiddy wrote:are you guys sure he needs S14 - Speed Merchant ?


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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Pastore » 2011 Oct 20, 10:54

Suggestions:‏

TS:90
Acc:92
DA:87
DS:90
SA:80

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Maz3r » 2011 Oct 20, 11:52

Re: André SCHÜRRLE
Suggestions:‏

TS:90
Acc:92
DA:87
DS:90


The only thing I would change is his SA to 80. 78 is too low, if you've seen his last matches and goals.

His speed is correct as it is, I was watching him in Gladbach last weekend, except his great goal he played awful.

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby braindead » 2011 Oct 31, 09:36

Dribble accurarcy needs a raise to 84 is consistenly good enough with the ball ;
Shot accuracy also needs to be updated to 80;

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Kerry » 2011 Dec 25, 07:53

Agree with DA, SA increase, and i suggest a CURL to at least 80. He puts noticeable curling in some of his shots.

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Diego » 2011 Dec 26, 23:30

Interist wrote:
Fiddy wrote:are you guys sure he needs S14 - Speed Merchant ?


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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Malakayi » 2011 Dec 28, 23:11

Interist wrote:
Interist wrote:
Fiddy wrote:are you guys sure he needs S14 - Speed Merchant ?


It has been removed, good decision I guess.

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Mar 05, 21:16

There are some things i don't like of this set, so i wanted to discuss them. The values i will expose down aren't absolutes because they come from a perception i have about him. So no suggestion just exposing.

I think there is no development of him during this season and inconsistency is his best friend too..

-RES: I don't see responding a that level, i see in several times cough out of focus, so the 82 i found him a little bit generous. I will rate him at 80-81.

-DA: This value is the one that i am more against, the control of the ball in his feet is very poor, he runs with the ball giving punches and hard to see him with a close control. I like Konami value 82 or maybe 81. Müller and Reus are on 83, i see him down both.

-SA / ST: He can scores some nice goals, but we have to rate what he regularly shows and i don't see him with these values, even worse, i have a thought that he is SA>ST, so SA can stay or go down 1 point but his ST is worse than this i will put it on if SA stays at 79 if goes down a point i put it on 78.

-TECH: Do not thought i hate him. He shows nice controls, good first touch but he is so inconsistent. I wouldn't touch current TECH only if DA goes to 81. Konami rates him at 77, so harsh imo.

-MENT: I dont see him at that level, never showed a leadership or attitude. One fact, in all important matches he tends to disappear or shows a normal behaviour. Dont look to ladders, they are accurateness in MENT terms, but konami gives him 75. I don't see him that low but a value between low yellow or high green could be ok.

-COND: Very irregular on his level so far, more poor games than good ones, so is hard for him to maintain his level, go from 7 to 6.

THE "DILEMA":

Talking about his TS & ACC is difficult, i read in previous posts than he isn't fast than 86. Imo, i saw him faster, not too much but fast, like 87/88 but i also think that his ACC is too high. Even worse, for me he is TS>ACC, so that is why i think he deserves a lower value, i prefer something like TS 87 & ACC 86. This is also i saw in Müller too, both gets more speed in more distance, so for Müller i will go TS 86 & ACC 85/86. Schürrle is faster than Müller in long distances but at shorts both are very similar, the difference for me is that Schürrle is more agile with less close control of the ball and Müller is less agile but better ball control. Finally, i will decrease his DS to 87 and raise Müller to 86. With those values i think both will be more realistic considering that they have similar characteristic.

Thoughts?

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby s-cobar » 2012 Mar 05, 22:30

tested the Konami set today and there are a lot of values I like pretty much how he acts. So if I see your suggestions it seems they based on the Konami set nd I can live with that on the first view. Will test it tomorrow but seems pretty nice for me

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Mar 06, 01:00

My suggestions were based on the criteria of what i see about him. Some values are similar to Konami, others are similar in ratio terms. So, i decided to tested them and I am very comfortable with this, same as Tymo thread:

My values: ATT: 79, TS: 87, ACC: 86, RES: 81, DS: 87, ST: 79, HEA: 73, CON: 6
Konami values: STA: 83, DA: 81, SPA:79, SPS: 75, LPA: 80, LPS: 77, MEN: 75, KS: 50, TW: 80
Actual values: DEF: 47, BAL: 78, AGI: 85, SA: 80, SP: 83, HEA: 73, JUM: 76, AGG: 85, WFA.6, WFF: 6

That is mainly with i am fine, for values like DEF im fine with Konami too. My values are based on my previous suggestion and others based on Konami ones but with a little more overlook. Also, i stayed with current *stars, imo he doesn't need *Positioning or *1-1 Scoring or *Penalties.

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby MrEskola » 2012 Apr 22, 09:09

He scored the amazing winner yesterday, this is goal of the matchday stuff.


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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Kerry » 2012 Apr 22, 10:29

Alexalibur wrote:Agree with DA, SA increase, and i suggest a CURL to at least 80. He puts noticeable curling in some of his shots.


mracho wrote: Well, then he/she was an idiom with a T at the end.


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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby MrEskola » 2012 Apr 23, 14:34

Curling should be at least 80 without any doubt. You can also see that from his goal up there.

Here you can vote in the "Tor des 32. Spieldags" (Goal of the 32nd matchday): http://www.bundesliga.de/de/tordesspiel ... ltag32.php
I think André's goal was the best of those. Cacau and Kagawa had a good crack there too.

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Sep 16, 01:40

Some small changes. He needs higher attack, he is an intelligent player that knows were to cause damage. At the same time he needs lower response. He needs lower jump, is strange to see him winning an aerial challenge. He has proven that he is very accurate at shooting, scoring some wonderful goals. Lower condition, he is very inconstant at keeping his level. Probably lowering his teamwork to make him stick more to sides would be a good move too.

ATT: 81
RES: 77
JUMP: 70
SA: 82
TW: 77
COND: 5

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Hayame » 2012 Sep 16, 16:48

like all of your suggestions for the players :)

I´m not sure about Schürrle´s SA. For me he seams even better than 82.

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Re: André SCHÜRRLE

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Sep 17, 21:46

Yes, he is very good at placement. Being a bit sceptic about giving him higher value. Lets see how he does in current season or wait for more replies from trusty members about this :D

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