Narciso Mina

[Luisito]

Nickname: El Bello

[Luisito]

Please do sugesstions for the player 2011 top scorer of Ecuadorian league

[Basilio]

thanks for the effort of creating him. He needs lot of changes...Im giving him more time to analize him, though i have an idea of what im going to do btw is him just 172 ? he seems a bit taller than that

[Kruger13]

Yes, he is only 1,72 m. But, in this few games he showed a good jump, and specially a nice header. Maybe, that's why you think (also i thought it) was taller.

[Luisito]

jump and header can be a little higher right ? please tell me your sgueestions Basilio what to change so i can change

[BelloMina]

golazos of narciso agains Cuenca

[Basilio]

it should, definitely, a lot higher, quite a lot higher, quite a lot of stats What a striker ! #NarcisoGol!

[Luisito]

Well Basilio if we rate him just of his last season he could have much highter stats but i am rating him overall his all career , he was just last season like bomb with 28 goals , his 30 years old and in his whole career he was jsut last season explosive and 1 other season guess was in 2008 o 2009. Other then that he almost did noting at all peor in Europe nada y nada !!!!!!!!!!! He had also his chances in seleccion and never impress in international level so thats why he dont deserve very high stats. He is noting near to be honest to a Christian Benitez who showing hisself in a better league since years and scoring each season 10+ goals and also best striker of Ecuador seleccion after Tin Delgado retired. Thats my explation for Narciso , yes if he continue scoring this season also 20+ goals we could sit down together and boost his attack and aggrassion 4-5 points and other stats

[Luisito]

i was at that openin match against Cuenca , Mina scored 2 goals 1 by header. But honestly we played so well against Cuenca because they was just with 10 men, lets see if Narciso will continue playin well and scoring more gols, for now we can boost his jump and header may 2 o 3 points noting more cause his not that very high class level striker , he dissapoint me in all pre seasons matches against Colombian teams and were we lost 3-0 against this equipo cagon from secound division

[Basilio]

its ridiculous to rate a player based on his carrer, we dont do that, its stupid, we rate as what they show currently. Benitez set is not trustable and shouldnt be taken as comparision, even so he already is much better than narciso. Narciso is a late boomer, i haven't followed his carrer but they sure are plenty of reasons of why he didnt succed, yet that matters shit. Most values make no sense, like acc ? wtf ?! he is no in the lines of 86 at all, not at all this quick. The set needs overhaul, and trust me, im sure he'd score plenty goals in any other league also, yet he instead of going to the 'exterior' preffered to stay here cuz he loves barcelona, but he does have the quality for any other superior league. Nowadays he is just in another level than most of our strikers, and i would say he is definitely NT material

He played well because they were 10 men ?!, we were for the most of time in equal conditions, we also got a red card, and his yet he was 90 minutes class performing, colombian team wasnt his fault, he didnt had much chances, and yet he did the most dangerous attack with a letal header saved by the keeper. The 'equipo cagon' was n stupid match that shouldnt have been played, yet we played with like what ....10 subs ? the field was horrible and barcelona have a lot of problems with this kind of fields, therefore couldnt even manage to get foward. Narciso is quality

[Kruger13]

Im with both (its weird, right!?). He needs some changes but a revolution isn't necessary. Outside his country and in the past he was a mess, but we are not here to rate based on his past (there is a classic section for that). If you ask me, we should wait more games for a complete set changes, its to premature to rate him, its only like 3-4 matches that he played. All in good level but still few (and last season, that nobody of us follow him)

[Basilio]

he needs an overhaul, but im not certain on the values, thats what i havent done it

[Kruger13]

he needs an overhaul, but im not certain on the values, thats what i havent done it

Me too, have ideas but no values... Like i said, maybe watching him a little bit more will unclear our minds.

[Luisito]

you are ridiculous Basilio just because he was top scorer with 28 goals he cant have good class stats either! there are alot of avarage strikers that scored may around 25 o 30 gols a season but the other seasons noting , look at a Guiza from La Liga just a 1 season man o Afonso Alves of Holland league there are tons of more strikers like that. Narciso Mina was already in Barcelona few years ago and show noting special and this his secound chance is his last chance in Barcelona with 29 to show his quality,once he dissapoint we could see him next season again in a team like Manta o Olmedo jajaj , seems sometimes like am Barcelona hater but no i love my team but need to be realistic , in other hand you are right his not so fast speed could down to 81/83 , with that height he could too slow either so he has a lilttle peace and surely a few points better jump and header , Christian Benitez is without disscussion the best Ecuadorian striker , showing hisself again and again in Mexico and National team that is quality am talking about , for me is quality striker who is scoring almost each and every season more or less 10/13 goals who with me ?

[Basilio]

whatever this is pointless

[Luisito]

attack up to 1 point (since his pormising)

balance up to 79

top speed down to 81 (true that his not that fast)

acceleration down to 83

header up to 78 (reasonable header we could wait still primero etapa ends and could raise slighly)

jump up to 86 (his jump looks 1 of his best sets reminds me a bit to Felix Borja , a shorter striker with good jump)

[Luisito]

basilio estas sabidisima cambiaste los stats sin avisarme

[BelloMina]

Well I think Basilio is right in updating his stats, Luisito I understand what are you trying to suggest but it is ridiculous. This is not the "Classic Narciso Mina" so the stats are not about all his career, he has grown and mature a lot in this two years and trust me he is a great forward, so agree with basilio.

[Luisito]

His ok and i have faith on him this time but to say grown alot i still not sure thats why am saying lets see what he will do this season , once he score 20+ goals we can surely give him a nice boost on statts , like Basillio said very weak Holland team like Excelsior wanted him (a equipo cagon) and few more weak Europe teams , then as i know some mediocore Mexican teams wanted him. Its much better to stay here in Ecuador in a great team like Barcelona instant goin to 1 of this equipo cagon. I have faith this year on Barcelona that they will be at least 3th and join to Copa Libertadores

[BelloMina]

Barcelona will be 2012 champion and Narciso will score more than 28 goals this time