Cesc Fàbregas

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Cesc Fàbregas

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby cris » 2012 Jan 09, 06:12

JMP 73 is kinda low, IMO. HEA and JMP, somewhere in the green region, seem more accurate.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby El Pipita » 2012 Jan 09, 16:00

He has been playing a lot in the right wing this season, i think WF should be added.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Fixer » 2012 Jan 09, 16:00

I think you don't fully understand Barça's system :)

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby El Pipita » 2012 Jan 09, 16:07

Fixer wrote:I think you don't fully understand Barça's system :)


I know their players tends to interchange position throughout the game but if you look at ESPN stats it clearly shows Cesc Fabregas is a side player in their system.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Fixer » 2012 Jan 09, 16:15

He will not behave as he's supposed to as WF, It's not as simple as that bud. I doubt It really would fit.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Jan 09, 19:58

Some thoughts:
-He scored most of his goals based on his capacity to go forward and a good positional game (intelligence like a pure striker), so that we can make it possible just with his ATT plus shooting value plus ★positioning and all this plus a higher aggression, along with higher header and jump (green values).

Sum up: ATT: 83-84, SA: 81, ST:81, HEA: 77, JUM: 73 AGG:85 and ★positioning (with this he doesn't need such high value in ATT)

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Christiancito » 2012 Jan 19, 18:59

I think they would have to add in position SS or WF.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby messixavi » 2012 Jan 20, 18:18

Header is well too low at 72.He's scored 6 headers this season,most being of a high quality.

For comparison: Kaka 74,D Gibson 75,Ramires 77,Jonjo Shelvey 74,Arteta 74,Tom Cleverley 76

Does anybody seriously think Cleverley,Shelvey,Kaka or Gibson deserve to have higher heading than Fabregas? What have they done to prove it?

Cleverley 76 is insane I don't remember him even scoring a header.

Look at this beauty,when did Cleverley ever score a header like that?



I propose a 77.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby jurgens » 2012 Jan 26, 08:28

when he had to take over for iniesta.. was pretty huge differnce in how effective each one is... seen xavi looking for cesc only to not see him there and going for alves instead, saw that a few times

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby blaugrana » 2012 Jan 26, 15:16

Yes it was no coincidence Pep scratched his head when Cesc had to take over Iniestas place. Cesc bad at taking up the right position and combining with teammates in midfield.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby morenol80 » 2012 Jan 27, 19:00

blaugrana wrote:Yes it was no coincidence Pep scratched his head when Cesc had to take over Iniestas place. Cesc bad at taking up the right position and combining with teammates in midfield.


Cesc has developed to a more "atacking" midfielder than a creative one. He started being a pure CMF, but guess he got used to playing in a more offensive role and now is hard for him to adapt once again to the CMF position... guess Thiago could be a sensible option to cover Iniestas place, while Fabregas keeps on playing as a "false" striker.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby victordrew2011 » 2012 Jan 28, 00:36

his shot shot accuracy should be at least 80, he scores so decent goals and also header at 77 as he has good headers. and he plays AM or SS now, never CMF so his main position should be at least AM.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Xyder » 2012 Jan 28, 15:16

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jurgens wrote:Positions: AM, CM

Attack: 84
Defence: 60
Balance: 77
Stamina: 90
Top Speed: 77
Acceleration: 79
Response: 78
Agility: 83
Dribble Accuracy: 85
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 89
Short Pass Speed: 88
Long Pass Accuracy: 85
Long Pass Speed: 85
Shot Accuracy: 79
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 80
Free Kick Accuracy: 78
Curling: 80
Header: 73
Jump: 72
Technique: 90
Aggression: 80
Mentality: 82
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 88

Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 4

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PLAYER INDEX CARDS:
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-touch Play
S06 - Outside curve
P06 - Pinpoint Pass
P15 - Free Roaming


Positions: AM, SS, CM

ATT: 85
SA: 82
HEA: 77
JMP: 75

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Kerry » 2012 Jan 28, 15:22

I'd keep his ACC on 80, HEA a point more and MENT 1-2 points lower. Otherwise looks good!
He should have *Reaction since he have the card "Marauding".

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Anders » 2012 Jan 30, 00:50

I don't think he need a green value at jump, would go for 78 at header too and +1 at SPA.
I have him a bit different in my OF in terms of ATK/RES, I have him with ATK 82~83 RES 82~83, IMO RES is more important stats for Free Roaming/Reaction type of players than pure attack, a player like Platini is good example of great responsive AMF.
Some example comparing Classic Xavi with Cesc:
Xavi ATK: 86~87, RES: 78, AGG: 70~72 + Reaction/Marauding
Cesc ATK 85~84, RES 78~79, AGG 80~81 + Reaction/Marauding and Free Roaming
So the only thing separating they are a Free Roaming card and more AGG, this doesn’t make the big gap that they have in terms doing a good run inside the box and scoring.
He need a change on his AGI and DS too, anyone already tested him with lower values especially in DS?

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Xyder » 2012 Jan 30, 20:56

Well, some tweaks are needed, so I'm going to update him. ATM I'll go for ATK 85 / RES 78, maybe we can discuss the impact on ATK/RES ratio.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby lushoxfloow » 2012 Feb 02, 14:48

Iniesta and Fabregas deserve * center?

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Kerry » 2012 Feb 02, 21:18

His Heading looks a little high, as most of his header goals were easy enough for any player with even lower values. I like him at 76 maximum, just for his unusual form of scoring headers. Also does anyone else agree with lower BAL?

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby rgm91 » 2012 Feb 20, 13:39

lushoxfloow wrote:Iniesta and Fabregas deserve * center?


no

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Korinov » 2012 Feb 20, 15:02

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