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Chris Smalling

Postby PES Stats Database » 2010 May 16, 12:12

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The central-defender’s fleeting performances for Fulham and the England Under-21 team were enough to identify the 20-year-old as an indispensable young talent. Smalling’s top attributes are his pace and his intelligent approach, particularly his ability to read the game. On top of this, he is six feet five inches tall and consequently, a dangerous target in the box from set-pieces, as he has already shown on the Red Devils’ pre-season tour. Smalling’s athletic ability should be beneficial both at the heart of the United defence and at the other end of the pitch.
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Re: Chris SMALLING

Postby mrayamgoreng_12 » 2011 Oct 27, 07:13

A raise in Stamina?
He can barely last a match as a SB with his stamina....
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Re: Chris SMALLING

Postby alawadhi3000 » 2011 Oct 30, 00:02

Overrated TS.
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Re: Chris SMALLING

Postby CR7 » 2011 Dec 22, 20:28

Another who should only have Side: R.
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Re: Chris SMALLING

Postby Diego » 2011 Dec 22, 23:49

any thoughts about his Def value? cant believe such difference between him and Jones.
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Re: Chris SMALLING

Postby ballmer » 2011 Dec 23, 01:41

His defensive positioning is considerably better than Jones'. Jones' tackling is better, but he has sliding tackle for that. I'm unsure on values, but I'm certain that there's a considerable gap between the two.
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Re: Chris SMALLING

Postby Paddy » 2011 Dec 23, 13:48

Personally, I'd have Smalling at his current value and Jones at 76. I think a 6 point gap is fair.
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Re: Chris SMALLING

Postby Jez » 2011 Dec 23, 15:04

Just to echo what mrayamgoreng_12 said, he should have a boost in stamina.
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Re: Chris SMALLING

Postby alawadhi3000 » 2012 May 11, 11:54

Another injury. :(

IT: C possibly?

Also from the last match we played, I noticed that he has a slow reaction and bad anticipation, I'm thinking the 81 response value he has is a bit generous.
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby vinnie » 2013 Jan 30, 21:20

his sps can be pretty nice, but his spa looks really really sloppy, i have doubts he should sit on 75.
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby alawadhi3000 » 2013 Nov 07, 11:51

DA, LPA, TS, ACC need a 2-3 drop each.
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby petreleo » 2013 Nov 11, 15:22

Well, Smalling is a good player, but from when did he became a "good" technician?
I've watched almost every single game he played for ManUtd and I've seen some really bad tecnical displays from him. Also his speed is overrated as he is nowhere near as quick as Rooney.
So I suggest:
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 75
Long Pass Speed: 77
Ball Control: 76
Top Speed: 83
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby Rossa » 2013 Nov 12, 08:45

petreleo wrote:Well, Smalling is a good player, but from when did he became a "good" technician?
I've watched almost every single game he played for ManUtd and I've seen some really bad tecnical displays from him. Also his speed is overrated as he is nowhere near as quick as Rooney.
So I suggest:
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 75
Long Pass Speed: 77
Ball Control: 76
Top Speed: 83


His ball control could be a tad lower, as could his long pass accuracy. His dribble accuracy is surely lower than this also?

His top speed, however, is massively underrated by you. He's much, much faster than Rooney. If you watched him against Real Sociedad you would see him outpace Griezmann and against Arsenal he showed similar pace to Gibbs. On a long run he caught up with a ball that seemed impossible. I recall him keeping up with Agbonlahor and he outpaced Sturridge earlier this season (and straight after Evans lost a very similar run against Sturridge).

Rooney looks lighter and quicker than before, but against Arsenal it became clear that he's on Sagna's level.
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby petreleo » 2013 Nov 12, 16:08

Rossa wrote:
petreleo wrote:Well, Smalling is a good player, but from when did he became a "good" technician?
I've watched almost every single game he played for ManUtd and I've seen some really bad tecnical displays from him. Also his speed is overrated as he is nowhere near as quick as Rooney.
So I suggest:
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 75
Long Pass Speed: 77
Ball Control: 76
Top Speed: 83


His ball control could be a tad lower, as could his long pass accuracy. His dribble accuracy is surely lower than this also?

His top speed, however, is massively underrated by you. He's much, much faster than Rooney. If you watched him against Real Sociedad you would see him outpace Griezmann and against Arsenal he showed similar pace to Gibbs. On a long run he caught up with a ball that seemed impossible. I recall him keeping up with Agbonlahor and he outpaced Sturridge earlier this season (and straight after Evans lost a very similar run against Sturridge).

Rooney looks lighter and quicker than before, but against Arsenal it became clear that he's on Sagna's level.

Well I haven't watched him in track and field races, but he is quick that's for sure.
However, I personally think that he doesn't know how to use his body correctly and this undermines his speed.
When he is running his arms are all over the place and overall his body is not well placed.
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Just look at him, he doesn't look like a sprinter, isn't he?

That's why I am suggesting a bit lower speed.
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby Rossa » 2013 Nov 14, 11:26

He definitely has an awkward running style, but that doesn't seem to affect his pace. Ryan Giggs has a much neater running style, but he is slower than Smalling these days - Ashley Young and Sterling run like school girls, but both are quick.

Smalling is at least an 85 TS, arguably higher - maybe 87. He takes a couple of yards to get going, but arguably better than 74. He's faster than Jones, but Jones carries the ball much better and should subsequently have a higher DS.
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby alawadhi3000 » 2013 Dec 19, 15:27

I don't see his TS that high at all, he is average to slightly above average, a value of 83 will suits him better.

What is seriously needs decreasing is LPA, he can't cross at all, whoever gave him 77 LPA need to be stoned to death. :o
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby Korinov » 2014 Jan 24, 12:13

Again my knowledge of him is limited, but I'm surprised he's rated higher than Evans regarding TW. It's looked actually the opposite when I've seen them play together. Smalling does some decent covering work but other than that his defensive positional sense leaves a lot to be desired and he tends to leave the backline exposed pretty often when trying some impulsive interceptions.
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby BigStu » 2014 Jan 24, 12:20

vinnie posted a set as an update but it was lost during the hack
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby Korinov » 2014 Jan 24, 12:27

vonie post it again pls
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby Rossa » 2014 Jan 24, 13:11

alawadhi3000 wrote:I don't see his TS that high at all, he is average to slightly above average, a value of 83 will suits him better.

What is seriously needs decreasing is LPA, he can't cross at all, whoever gave him 77 LPA need to be stoned to death. :o


Give some examples at his average pace then? He has held his own against Agbonlahor - outpaced Sturridge - made Borini look ridiculously slow, who sits on 83ts btw, and mince meat out of him in a run. Smalling looks awkward at times, but his pace is very, very good!

Also, he was the only player against Sunderland who played well. What about a raise in BB, jump and heading? He's a beast in the air! I also think he needs a raise in defense.
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Re: Chris Smalling

Postby alawadhi3000 » 2014 Jan 27, 23:27

Rossa wrote:
alawadhi3000 wrote:I don't see his TS that high at all, he is average to slightly above average, a value of 83 will suits him better.

What is seriously needs decreasing is LPA, he can't cross at all, whoever gave him 77 LPA need to be stoned to death. :o


Give some examples at his average pace then? He has held his own against Agbonlahor - outpaced Sturridge - made Borini look ridiculously slow, who sits on 83ts btw, and mince meat out of him in a run. Smalling looks awkward at times, but his pace is very, very good!

Also, he was the only player against Sunderland who played well. What about a raise in BB, jump and heading? He's a beast in the air! I also think he needs a raise in defense.


If you are referring to the run near the end of the first half, Agbonlahor wasn't even trying that hard.
As for the examples you requested, I don't remember any incidents, just watch the first game before my post.

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