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Cesc Fàbregas

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Diego » 2011 Dec 11, 03:52

check Jurgens thread.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby ynwasg8 » 2011 Dec 11, 04:53

The set in Jurgens thread works pretty nice for me especially his long passing.But he has underrated his short passing.It is still accurate but nothing like before he should still sit above iniesta by any means.Can someone update it with his sets(especially long passing and attack?
http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=903&t=24738&p=344684

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby TBD » 2011 Dec 11, 19:23

I think he deserve more points on his ATT and SA. And add SS.
About SA since he sign to Baca he show us more accurate shot and now he is on the list of scorer. Jurgens give him in ATT 84 and IMO that's very good value for him.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Xyder » 2011 Dec 11, 22:05

Yeah, IMO he deserves ATT 84, over Xavi and Iniesta for sure. About other updates, don't suffer we're going to update him soon, IMO it's clear wich stats need to go up and wich ones need to go down. We only wait to a little consensous about some numbers, that's it.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Rogatto27 » 2011 Dec 18, 12:47

Add SS in position.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Odi1981 » 2011 Dec 18, 15:50

To my understanding all the players in midfield and attack deserve add * 1-touch, feature for the game practiced with the first touch of the ball.


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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Freyre » 2011 Dec 18, 18:15

Rogatto27 wrote:Add SS in position.

+1 He is playing as SS...

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Xyder » 2011 Dec 18, 19:49

This introduces some great inputs jurgens stats thread. He isn't so damn good passer, but his arrival to the opposite area it's great. IMO don't agree with some values, but they are minimal and nothing changes the soul of the whole set (for me 80 SA, 82 SP, green HEA and JMP...). What do you think about it?

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby cris » 2011 Dec 23, 12:22

He has been scoring headers for fun for Barcelona, with one of them coming in the recent classico. something has to be done about his header accuracy.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Kerry » 2012 Jan 05, 07:32

Update?

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Korinov » 2012 Jan 05, 09:19

Yeah, it's time already. Specially the passing and shooting tweaks, the increase of ATT (if he keeps like this I'd even go for 85) and the decrease of TW to high yellows.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Kerry » 2012 Jan 05, 09:27

And other small points up for heading and Aggression.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby čale » 2012 Jan 05, 10:58

also i'd like to point out that yellow BB is not necessary just like yellow ACC and such a high value for agility

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Djoni » 2012 Jan 05, 11:58

cale1991 wrote:also i'd like to point out that yellow BB is not necessary just like yellow ACC and such a high value for agility


I agree with what you say.
I'm using jurgens set and it feels just right. He is not a fast, neither strong player.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Xyder » 2012 Jan 05, 20:21

jurgens wrote:Positions: AM, CM

Attack: 84
Defence: 60
Balance: 77
Stamina: 90
Top Speed: 77
Acceleration: 79
Response: 78
Agility: 83
Dribble Accuracy: 85
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 89
Short Pass Speed: 88
Long Pass Accuracy: 85
Long Pass Speed: 85
Shot Accuracy: 79
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 80
Free Kick Accuracy: 78
Curling: 80
Header: 73
Jump: 72
Technique: 90
Aggression: 80
Mentality: 82
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 88

Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 4

STARS:
Tactical Dribble
Passing
Penalties
1-Touch Pass
Outside


PLAYER INDEX CARDS:
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-touch Play
S06 - Outside curve
P06 - Pinpoint Pass
P15 - Free Roaming


That's first set of jurgens, the second one differs about:

ATT: 86
SPA: 91
SPS: 90
SA: 81

The second set IMO it's better IG, but it's out of ladders, we can think in a better realism rather than try to follow our ladders, again and again.
Some inputs on Konami's default stats (PES2012):

ATT: 85
SA: 85

For me I go for ATT 85 and SA should be on yellows, I like jurgens second value, IMO we can go even to 82. And his header/jump should be on greens for me, for me his HEA>JMP, but not by much, I'm trying this 77/76.





It's not only about he uses his header it's how nice his headers are, I don't post the RM goal, but it's good too and everyone has seen it for sure.

I'll add SS as position too, but I like to leave AM as primary position and add *Centre star. He sometimes goes to the sides, but always appear on the center, look at the great majority of his goals, he appears from second line in the centre of the pitch with a dangerous chance to shoot or pass.

What do you think?

PS: Don't forget to add, Step On Skills (a must) and Roulette Skills too, but this last one doesn't use it so often.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby Korinov » 2012 Jan 05, 21:50

I agree with ATT 85, he's scoring a lot of goals lately and his sharpness, positioning and movements near and in the box seem to have improved significantly since he arrived at Barça (his new role also helps). I like jurgens' sets (both of them) but I wouldn't be so harsh with some values, to be more concrete I'd leave BB at 78, Acc at 80 and RES at 79. I also agree with SA up to 82, I really think he deserves it (no way he's worse than Soldado at finishing), but I'd also downgrade SP a bit, to 79... lately he seems to be favouring placement and accuracy way over power at shooting, I mean look at the goal vs. Levante... he doesn't give the ball much more strenght that what he usually applies to his passes, but the placement is great so it doesn't matter (quite a "Raulesque" goal if you ask me: good positioning, great control, raises head, places it out of the keeper's reach, goal).

About heading... I agree with Header 77 but Jump at 73 should be enough... even in those videos he doesn't really display a great leap IMO.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby ynwasg8 » 2012 Jan 05, 22:00

I think his speed and acceleration are underrated.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby blaugrana » 2012 Jan 05, 22:08

Nice values Xyder.

Cesc pretty much moves in the same area as Messi and as he did at Arsenal. But for Barca, it's pretty obvious he is an attacker rather than midfielder, since he isn't the one dictating the game as in Arsenal. Actually he is probably one of the most clinical/effective finishers in Europe this season in Barca (so also agree in at least 82 for SA). I would say primary position SS but could as well be AMF.. Hard to determine. Personally I see him as a striker like I said. In the future he could be moved down to the midfield but for now he isn't good enough for Xavi/Iniesta role.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby bssm » 2012 Jan 09, 00:14

Agree with a little raise in header, nothing mad but 73 makes him seem totally useless in the air when he isn't that bad.

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Re: Cesc FABREGAS

Postby ynwasg8 » 2012 Jan 09, 01:41

He scored another header today.I think he is way better than Mikel Arteta at heading.

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