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Fabricio Coloccini

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Gosu » 2011 Jan 27, 14:03

He might has been playing bad because he used to be a SB

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Josh » 2011 Jan 28, 19:41

He's improved this season, looked pretty solid when called upon.

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Pontheus » 2011 Jun 09, 20:01

I propose a better header for Coloccini. Header 84. He is very good hitting with the head.

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Jun 26, 03:20

Pontheus wrote:I propose a better header for Coloccini. Header 84. He is very good hitting with the head.


May be 1 point more, but I'm unsure.
Other thing, I always watched him with a great reading of the game, may be 1 or 2 points better would fit him, what do you think? I agree with his level of DEF

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby mrayamgoreng_12 » 2011 Nov 01, 11:33

i suggest a raise in DEF, RESPONSE and possibly HEADER....

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Josh » 2011 Nov 03, 11:46

I might be jumping the gun a little, but in my OF I have him with 83 Defence and 81 Response. Maybe his heading could be raised as well, but I'm not 100% sure.

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby BigStu » 2011 Nov 03, 14:38

i dont think that is jumping the gun at all, he should sit above his twin in def and closer to him in res

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Nov 04, 20:10

Done.

thor34 wrote:JUMP: 80/81/82. Digestible methionine and leap up to splice the header. From what I saw the half-length coat will easily to Angeleri.
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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Nirk » 2011 Nov 11, 17:50

Great mommment for Coloccini, he play amaizing now, is very fast, have a very good technique, is very similar to David Luiz, and not for the hair jaja, maybe he deserves a raise, New Castle have 8 goals and is not a causality, he is in the top of players in deffence of England, and not only me said that, Bermudez too.

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Nov 11, 18:23

He already received an update a week ago ;).

thor34 wrote:JUMP: 80/81/82. Digestible methionine and leap up to splice the header. From what I saw the half-length coat will easily to Angeleri.
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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Nirk » 2011 Nov 11, 21:06

Very poor the update for me, he have a great rendiment.

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Tom » 2011 Dec 18, 15:34

I reckon there could be a few more alterations to this set. They'd be major in their respective areas, but not too many changes in the full set. Heck, I reckon this thread needs discussion more than anything. For example, I'm not sure how I'd evaluate his Speed stats right now; I've seen him skinned by Sturridge and Elmander, but I've also seen him outpace the likes of Adebayor and Yakubu. Make of that what you will.

Firstly, his Team Work has to be increased (for numerous reasons). He's forged incredible partnerships at the back for Newcastle, particularly with Steven Taylor, and - whilst he is by no means vocal (I'd say that its an area he could work upon - has forged a solid understanding with his fellow centre-halves and covers their movement well. Often with Newcastle you'll see the two centre backs working cleverly in tandem, one sitting back whilst the other goes forward and vice versa. He has an intuitive understanding that belies his lack of overt communication. Moreover, we also have to consider Coloccini's ability to pick out a team-mate with his passing. This has been really palpable this season, and he can pick out some tremendous passes (There was a beaut of a pass to Leon Best yesterday against Swansea). Yet the success of his passing is twofold; it requires great passing technique (which he has in bucketloads) and a good understanding of his team-mates movements. I personally reckon that you could put him on an equal pegging with John Terry in this department, so an 83/84 valuation would suit Coloccini to the ground.

Following on from that latter point, Coloccini's Short passing values are too low here. He plays the ball out with incredibly precision and pace, and provides a contrast to Steven Taylor by taking time to play the ball out solidly rather than clearing the ball out-of-play with malice. I don't think you can justify him being below Mertesacker in Short Pass Speed, or below the likes of Heitinga or Rio Ferdinand (Heck, I'm not even convinced that Terry should be so high above him based upon this season) in terms of Short Pass Accuracy. Going conservatively, I'd say a 75/76 for Short Pass Speed, and a 76 - at the minimum - for Short Pass Accuracy. I honestly believe that a serious discussion needs to occur regarding EPL CB's and their Short Passing values, some of the top end players seem too highly rated compared to other leagues (Not sure I can agree with John Terry sitting on an equal pegging to Gerard Pique for SPA).

Also, as other people have said, he's been incredibly solid in the air this calendar year. Not up to the likes of Vermaelen and Koscielny per say, but relatively dominant. He has a good level of aggression and physicality, but has also been able to head the ball with consummate technique and power. However, I'd only look at slight +1 increases in these areas. I would not go any further than an 86 for Balance, and I'm really muddling between an for a Header value (Better than Distin, but I don't think he's superior to Carragher or Steven Taylor), so that could only be an 83 on current merit.

I definitely believe that a discussion needs to occur regarding his Technique and DA. He's, without a doubt, incredible on the ball, and he often reminds me of David Luiz. Yet I'm uncertain on what values to give him in these areas, given his current high valuations. But I'm certain that he should not be below the likes of Phil Jones or Richard Stearman in this areas.

Not sure I'd alter much more after that. He has looked defensively solid this season, but I find him circumspect in one-on-one situations at times. Largely, this is due to physical factors (Can be a tad slow and thus gets brushed against quite easily), but he can also be a half-step behind when trying to follow movements.

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby ingus » 2011 Dec 18, 16:45

I'm glad you brought that up... it's kinda been niggling in my mind everytime I glanced at his stats over the years. As I've always thought since his early la liga days that he was really a great on the ball CB, very comfortable on the ball, and far above average technical skills for a CB. But havn't seen him really in years, so wasn't comfortable with suggesting anything.

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Josh » 2011 Dec 18, 22:37

I agree with most of what you've said Tom, technically he very good, and his TW definitely needs an increase - tbh, I didn't realise it was as low as 79. I'm not the best judge though, I tend to overrate/underrate Newcastle players. I do disagree with one thing though, I don't think he is particularly bad at defending one on one, on the contrary, he's pretty good at it.

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby BigStu » 2011 Dec 20, 13:30

When I made this set I had in mind higher values but It wasn't really the norm to give high values to CB, but now this has changed I am perfectly happy to overhaul the set which im going to do now

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby Josh » 2011 Dec 20, 21:42

Liking the new set Stu.

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby BigStu » 2012 May 06, 17:05

Gave him a needed bump last week but needs another tbh

BigStu wrote:Club: Newcastle United FC
Name: Fabricio COLOCCINI
Shirt Name: COLOCCINI
Number: 2
Positions: CB
Nationality: Argentinian _arg
Age: 30 (22/02/1982

Height: 185 cm
Weight: 78 kg

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 65
Defence: 87
Balance: 85
Stamina: 83
Top Speed: 77
Acceleration: 76
Response: 87
Agility: 75
Dribble Accuracy: 78
Dribble Speed: 75
Short Pass Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Speed: 78
Long Pass Accuracy: 75
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 68
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 74
Free Kick Accuracy: 66
Curling: 70
Header: 84
Jump: 83
Technique: 80
Aggression: 68
Mentality: 90
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 87

Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 4

SPECIAL ABILITIES:


PLAYER INDEX CARDS:


ATTACK / DEFENCE AWARENESS: DEF


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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby pelimetal » 2012 Aug 01, 18:40

Maybe he deserves covering...

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Re: Fabricio COLOCCINI

Postby pelimetal » 2012 Aug 09, 22:15

He was called by Sabella (DT Argentina National Team) :D

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Re: Fabricio Coloccini

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Jan 11, 12:44

He ordered the transfer request?

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