Andrés Iniesta

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Tireless defensive or attacking midfielder, Iniesta has won over 20 caps and scored 4 goals for Spain since making his international debut in 2006. He was part of the Spanish squad at the 2006 FIFA World Cup and made one appearance during the tournament. He played an important role in helping Spain qualify for Euro 2008 after scoring three important goals and providing goal scoring assists for the strikers. He plays club football for Spanish giants Barcelona where he is a first team regular and is popular with the club's supporters. He has produced some impressive form for Barcelona over the last two seasons and has made over 150 appearances for the club since 2002. Iniesta moves the ball around well in the midfield, has a good burst of pace on the ball and provides defence splitting passes for his team mates, he also has a high work rate, good shooting ability and adds a goal scoring threat to the midfield.

CLASSIC SET(S): 2009-2011 & 2004-2006

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[21fadhil]

SPA is fine.It's his SPS that i felt need to be decreased by 2-3 points.
I also agree with C injury.Some players who really injury prone is also had some injury free times.And Iniesta is always having problems with his leg area, even though it's just a minor injury.

[Xyder]

Maybe we can put him Cond 7 and IT: C, in this way he can had a better continuity but he's also more fragile.

[Alexalibur]

Agree with you Xyder. Fine suggestions

[bssm]

agree with SPS drop, i meant not consistent and playing basic passes in comparison to the likes of Ronaldinho(not as inventive or difficult),Fabregas(not as consistent). He is clearly world class at passing and a step above just about everyone.

[Cruel]

Isn't 95 DA too high for him? Or, to put it other way: 6pts more than D. Silva, 8 points more than Di Maria? Not questioning Andres abilities here, but the differnce seems just too high...

[Alexalibur]

Isn't 95 DA too high for him? Or, to put it other way: 6pts more than D. Silva, 8 points more than Di Maria? Not questioning Andres abilities here, but the differnce seems just too high...

No

[Cruel]

Yes, I know that for Barca fans even 98 DA would be fine, I'm just asking for some serious explanation about so high difference in DA between the players mentioned above. I watch both Barca, Real and City - and I don't see so big difference in, so called, 'glue' in their feet.

[Xyder]

IMO it's more a problem from the rating of Silva and Di María than only Iniesta, he's after Messi the best player keeping the ball glued to his feet, so for me it's well rated there, Silva has exploded recently (final past season and current one) so maybe he can be updated soon (see some personal threads in the discussion subforum) and Di María deserves an update, specially on DA, 'cause he's arguably the best dribbler of RM (better than CR7, Kaká and Özil), at least under my eyes.

[Basilio]

His passing stat needs no decrease at all, same for his DA

[21fadhil]

That's the point.
It's Silva and Di Maria who're underrated, not Iniesta who overrated.
And i still think to decrease his SPS, though.I see his passing speed nowhere on 90 level in term of regular basic.1-2 points of decrease won't be bad for him.

[ballmer]

About SPA, there was some discussion in the Fabregas thread, into which Iniesta's rating was considered:

A few months ago jurgens and (I think) Mr Evans, were discussing a combo of SPA increase with a TW decrease. Since then I think his SPA was raised to 93. But what does everyone think of TW 90? Personally, I can't see that he moves for the team moreso than Iniesta (92) and if the possibility that lower TW correlates to a greater tendency to make the killer pass, as opposed to building play more patiently/make safer passes, then a lower value than Iniesta is surely needed. In principle I certainly think a SPA>TW ratio ought to be the case. Does anyone else have any opinion on this idea?

I like that idea ballmer. Can't add anything more as you've already explained why the change could be made.

His SPA could be brought down to a 92 again btw. We raised it to help him play the killer ball more and improve his vision a bit but it doesn't really work. And I don't like him sitting just one point behind prime Dinho. But a 92 would put him too close to Iniesta.. but he should come down a point imo. I think we could create a nice ladder with Iniesta 90/Cesc 92/Dinho 94. Thoughts?

That sounds pretty good to me. I'd like to see iniesta at a 90, really the gap between him and messi is very small.

I use 90 SPA, 88 SPS. Some seem to agree, some to disagree. Can anyone argue the case for keeping it the same, as I'm very confident with the values I've been using.

[21fadhil]

If Fabregas got a point of decrease in SPA, then Iniesta must come down too.There's no way that Iniesta sit one point behind him.

[Basilio]

I really disagree with decreasing his short passes. He isnt much of as killer ball passer, but he shows such beautiful accuracy and speed on each of his passes, he is a similar passer to xavi, but in a lower league, he can pass the ball through lot of ground and lot of legs with clinical precision, high speed and grounded. Here is a recent match vs racing, not the best of him, but a clear example to explain myself:



Messi beats him in ambition and he benefits from playing on a more forward position, facilitating him to play more killer passes. Moreoever, he can even sit higher in future...

[21fadhil]

I'm still thinking about decreasing his SPA and SPS by just a bit.Not only because i didn't like him sit on one point behind Fabregas, but it will help us on build the ladder set.

[Fantasista]

Agree. Both may get down by one point. And what are your thoughts on ts:76 and ds:95. Does it really feel right to you?

[Xyder]

SPS IMO shold be better on 87 than 89, he isn't like Xavi who can deliver some nice passes from behind. Iniesta could deliver some great ones, but his ratio of passing isn't so high. So we can go with SPA 90 and SPS 87, right?

[Fantasista]

Well at first I was thinking about 88 sps, but I wasn't sure so I suggested to lower both stats qually. So my final pick will be:
spa 90
sps 88

[ynwasg8]

His technique should be on par with Messi and he has better technique than van Persie who sits on 94. Though i think all three deserves to be on red.

[blaugrana]

I feel AGI 92 is too high for Iniesta. Only really explosive players should sit on 90+ agility for me and I don't feel explosiveness is Iniestas strongest area. He plays more slow and considered game. Iniesta passes by players with his great close control, acceleration and technique. Elsewise he is not super agile. I think a value between 87 - 89 would be fine for agility. He would still be able to make those great twists and turns. Also, I feel he can even have 96-97 in DA if agility comes down.

Opinions?

[Mr. Evans]

Agree with lowering his AGI. A while I back I noticed there was 4 point gap between him and Silva and that's just not right. I'd say they're very similar in this and should sit on par or not more than one point apart. Been testing Silva and Iniesta with a AGI 89 and I like how they feel..
Disagree with raising his DA though. Think it's high enough already and it would put him too close to the likes of Dinho and Messi.