Hiroshi Kiyotake

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Hiroshi Kiyotake

Postby PES Stats Database » 2011 Oct 24, 15:22

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Yazid » 2011 Nov 14, 12:34

Looks a good prospect, the best since Takashi Usami and Naoki Yamada from Japan.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Helios » 2011 Nov 14, 15:21

An excellent player who replaced Kagawa with brio, already three decisive passes in National Team. Cerezo is really good at finding great attacking midfielders, even though Kiyotake is more of a winger. He can play in a central position however.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Fiddy » 2012 Apr 10, 17:01

Are these up to date Anis? there is nothing you'd change?

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby VUKDS » 2012 May 19, 11:37

I watched him few times,he could has Roullete Skills.What do you think ?
Also,his first touch is amazing,maybe could go up to 83...

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Sep 15, 18:22

Seems Coach Hecking finally found a player to make up for losing Ekici and Gündogan prior to last season. Plays really well in the BuLi so far.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Hayame » 2012 Sep 16, 16:56

Yesterday he really was pure class. I really love Japanese player :D

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Sep 22, 22:07

his set pieces are brilliant, how comes FKA is on 70? If he keeps up this performances on a regular basis I see him on FKA (Place Kicking) 86 & CURL 84.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Hayame » 2012 Sep 27, 10:11

His long passes can easily be in middle 80's. Response need a decrease. ATT in green, and Tech also can go up. He is a fine techniquel player with a close control and a awesome right foot. His passes are more accurate than with speed.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Oct 01, 03:12

Agree with everything except with higher long passes because i am not enough confident but you can change it. I add higher DA too. We can switch his passes (accuracy with speed) and decrease the speed if its necessary.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Hayame » 2012 Oct 01, 05:22

For me greens in LPA is really to low but I could live with a low 80 for the moment.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Hayame » 2012 Oct 11, 16:51

I gave him a update. It´s quite conservative but these changes were needed. Maybe someone has more suggestions. Also what FKA Style should we give him?

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Oct 21, 21:08

I know he's good but I doubt that he's that good all around, there are a few areas that seem to be rated rather generously judging from his performances in Germany so far like Defence, Balance, LPS, Jump, Mentality and Condition. I feel Condition is 1 point too high, he's too inconsistent to earn a 6 yet, about Mentality he seems to be the typical sunshine player, he only shines together with his team, on bad days he isn't a player that can inspire his team mates to work harder and when the odds are against them it's like this: He tries to dribble, loses the ball and doesn't try to get it back, just like Zlatan. Doesn't deserve greens imo.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Hayame » 2012 Oct 22, 05:14

Yes you are completely right. I didn´t notice till now the Jump 83. It´s also much to generous I think.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby andy4ita » 2012 Nov 22, 21:12


Looking at this video I suggest to rais SPA to 83 minimum.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Hayame » 2012 Nov 23, 07:44

SPA 80 is perfect at the moment. He surely is better in LPA than in SPA. So for the moment there is no need for a change.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Nov 25, 02:20

Isnt he the talisman player of Nürnberg? I mean when plays good the team plays good but if he is in a bad day all the team seems in a bad day too. Added a picture and yes, he is better long passer than shorter.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Hayame » 2012 Nov 25, 09:54

I suggested it in the Card thread but Malakayi wasn´t sure about it. I also think the same as you, he is the heart of the team and nearly all dangerous attacks are going over him.

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Dec 12, 23:56

mmh, what do you think about 86/87 LPA?

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Re: Hiroshi KIYOTAKE

Postby Hayame » 2012 Dec 13, 00:18

Could agree on 85-86. If he improves more he can be in 1-3 years even in 90's but then he surely need a better team at first.

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