Raúl Meireles

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Raúl Meireles

Postby JTMachado » 2008 Dec 09, 15:05

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*Note: Due to playing a different role at his club, Meireles only warrants S09 - Covering / Covering when playing for his NT.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Sep 02, 18:42

Agree with your suggestions, though I have his ST on a 81, and yeah 1-Touch Play for sure. I think his DEF should come down a bit too. Someone suggested DEF 69 I think and I agree with that. And I think Passer should be removed.
What about the fact that he has Covering btw? It's not something I've paid much attention too really but he regularly, emphasis on regularly, stays back and covers for midfielders who go forward in game and is that something he does in real life?

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby JMVP » 2011 Sep 02, 19:11

I'm ok with removing passer (absolutly) and lowering defense to 69 (considering his response value it's well enough). I'm also ok with removing *covering if you decide to do so. Just keep in mind he is a very versatile midfielder, he is a box to box by nature but he can play DMF with ease or even the role of a more attacking midfielder.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Sep 02, 19:35

No I'm not suggesting to remove it but asking whether he needed the card as I personally have no idea. Yeah I like that about him (that he can play multiple positions with ease). And though you say you are okay with lowering DEF, do you think it's needed? I'd like to get the opinions of others on the matter too. I said I agree as I only saw him fairly regularly in the second half of the season where he played an attacking role but maybe a 71 is deserved..

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Pikka » 2011 Sep 02, 21:14

I agree with removing Passer*, his passes are accurate but he usually doesn't do those through passes.

As for Defense i don't mind if it is lowered by 1/2 points and JMVP his RES is good enough, but i wouldn't remove *Covering imo, when he plays as DMF in NT for instance, sometimes he compensates and covers the space usually left open by a side back.

Agreed as well with lowering SP and SPS by 1 or 2. His shots aren't that solid and strong enough for an 86. He makes more use of his ST.

One thing no one mentioned is his BB. I think he's more of a 77 or 78 on pair with coentrao. He's a kinda weak player, who doesnt stand strong charges and is often on the ground.

TECH - 82 (explained a few posts ago).

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby BigStu » 2011 Sep 10, 19:52

updated def, st, covering and passer

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby RedDevil17 » 2011 Sep 13, 21:11

I think you have to update adn his Tech to 82 he don't have bad first touch

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby BigStu » 2011 Sep 14, 08:32

done

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Sep 15, 18:09

What about the passing stats and SP suggested by JMVP. Spot on if you ask me. Can't comment on the FKA and Curl but those can get updated too.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby BigStu » 2011 Sep 15, 18:52

done

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Sep 15, 19:23

Don't know if something went wrong but he's not on the passing stats JMVP suggested (SPA 83/SPS 82/LPA 85/LPS 83). The same with FKA and Curl (FKA 74/Curl 80).

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby BigStu » 2011 Sep 15, 19:49

I tried to find his suggestions but failed so I guessed, I'd update now but the editor doesn't work on ipods

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby BigStu » 2011 Sep 16, 17:47

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby JMVP » 2011 Sep 16, 18:42

I think you've got a pretty good set now, there's nothing i'd cahnge by more than one or two points ;)

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby BigStu » 2011 Sep 16, 18:53

My kinda rule is if you'd change something by two or more points it worth discussion... so what you change jmvp?

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby JMVP » 2011 Sep 16, 19:49

DS i guess, it's not fast with the ball and doesn't like to run with it, plus he has good speed off of it. Not sure if he's an 82 for technique either, i'd give him an 81 but ladder wise... i don't think he's better than Essien or Ramires. And although he's a fighter he's quite weak. Not a big deal any way.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby shea » 2011 Dec 13, 11:20

Capabilities are good, but the response of 84 is too much, I think that 80-81 is very appropriate, I did not see that he deserves more than this.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Dec 13, 15:38

I disagree with bringing him down that much. I do agree with a 84 being too high but not by much imo. One of the reasons why he can play and why managers have no problem using him as a DM is because he is quick to react. I'd bring it down to a 83.
He can use a few other slight changes, BAL should come down a point. He's really not strong at all and steals balls rather than getting into physical tussles. DS should also come down to like a 75. And ST should come down a point. He's scored some pretty spectacular goals but when looking at consistency, a 81 is a bit much.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby FernandoA13 » 2011 Dec 13, 16:28

I wouldnt change nothing, except for BAL -1, maybe -2 even.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Dec 13, 16:37

He never shows to be as fast on the ball as the current stats make him. JMVP already made comment and seeing him regularly myself now, I've seen that he was right. He's also been mishitting balls too much at Chelsea, leading to his shots to go totally off target or skyhigh. Purely based on his time at Chelsea, anything over a 79 would be too much.
And I do think RES is a bit much, wouldn't put him over Ramires or on par with Song for example.

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Re: Raúl MEIRELES

Postby FernandoA13 » 2011 Dec 13, 16:52

His ATT and AGG aren't that high, while he is a threat in the box. I feel that RES 84 would help that fact, when he comes in the box he can be dangerous. Plus IMO his posistioning is good, if we would decrease BAL and RES that could proof to be to much, and he wont win possesion off the ball anymore. Wich is my concern in such a BAL-league like in England.

Decreasing ST you and JVMP are probably right (i dont follow the (global) ladder as much as you guys), but i wont change nothing in my OF. Because im afraid he will lose those great volleys he does/scores.

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