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Thomas Vermaelen

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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby Martina » 2011 Apr 11, 16:07

I suggest update

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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby Paddy » 2011 Apr 11, 17:30

Mr. Evans wrote:I'm surprised you lowered his BAL and Jump Paddy, his previous values (BAL 86 & Jump 89) suited him well if you ask me. For a 'short' defender his strength is impressive and his leap is amazing too.
The same goes for his Header by the way.


In terms of balance he wasn't exactly, strong.... but man he was a colossus when tackling hard in the challenge and had a lot of bite, but he wasn't a majorly strong player, very similar to Ferdinand (whom I rate at an 84/85 in terms of balance) but had a good centre of gravity so wasn't easily pushed off the ball.

In terms of heading and jump, I remember distinctly he was caught under a couple of balls when challenging defensively, offensively he was unreal, defensively at times he was a bit erroneous.
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby jurgens » 2011 Apr 11, 17:43

Paddy wrote:
very similar to Ferdinand (whom I rate at an 84/85 in terms of balance)


I'm really pleased to hear you say that. I've had Ferdinand at 84 BB for a long time, and had numerous fights with my brother accusing me of under-rating him. So how about that ferdinand update? :)
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby Paddy » 2011 Apr 11, 17:57

Its coming, eventually, I'm busy enough today and tomorrow, I don't want to rush it, you know?
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby jurgens » 2011 Apr 11, 18:00

glad to hear its in the works, thought you forgot. Take your time.
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Apr 11, 19:07

Paddy wrote:
Mr. Evans wrote:I'm surprised you lowered his BAL and Jump Paddy, his previous values (BAL 86 & Jump 89) suited him well if you ask me. For a 'short' defender his strength is impressive and his leap is amazing too.
The same goes for his Header by the way.


In terms of balance he wasn't exactly, strong.... but man he was a colossus when tackling hard in the challenge and had a lot of bite, but he wasn't a majorly strong player, very similar to Ferdinand (whom I rate at an 84/85 in terms of balance) but had a good centre of gravity so wasn't easily pushed off the ball.

In terms of heading and jump, I remember distinctly he was caught under a couple of balls when challenging defensively, offensively he was unreal, defensively at times he was a bit erroneous.


Hmm I guess you're right.
thor34 wrote:JUMP: 80/81/82. Digestible methionine and leap up to splice the header. From what I saw the half-length coat will easily to Angeleri.
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby čale » 2011 Apr 11, 19:32

well he is quite an imposing CB with these stats...and his DEF seems a tiny bit too high IMO it could be on par with the "new" Pique. The combo of DEF, RES + covering makes him a really REALLY good defender, i just think it could be tweaked a little...
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby BigStu » 2011 Apr 11, 19:38

Seeing as he is a really good defender...
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby chanman » 2011 Aug 22, 05:44

Stats are well rated I say, hopefully his condition can come up if he can prove to string games consistently at a high level. The only thing I am not sure is his weight, I am sure he looks somewhere around 75kg-76kg (also saw him listed as 75kg somewhere) there is no way he weighs more than Rooney or as much as some players at that weight.
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby Vranny » 2011 Sep 04, 00:47

Comparing the shooting stats of CB's to other positions I feel like Vermaelen could sit on a value of 72/73 for SA and maybe see a point raise of ST to 75. He's just as impressive as a lot of midfielders in this department, really.
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Sep 04, 13:26

Agree with you Vranny. He showed in his Ajax days and his debut season that he's a very good shooter for a CB, surprising people with some pretty impressive clean connections and not just hitting straight through the middle.
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby lushoxfloow » 2011 Sep 04, 23:39

I do not like his technique it might be major enclosedly as pique
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby CR7 » 2011 Sep 06, 05:03

Surely IT has to be a C now.
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby BigStu » 2011 Sep 06, 11:20

done
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Sep 06, 21:29

I think lushoxfloow was trying to say his TECH should go up and I agree with him. His first touch is better than 76, I'd put him on a 78. And his speed stats need changing. He's faster than this over distance but his ACC isn't this good. TS 83/ACC 78 for me. That said, that was before the injuries but we can't do anything about that right now.
And what do people think about his BAL? I think it can go up a point but I'm not sure..
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby Fides » 2011 Sep 07, 05:23

If I compare him too the Eredivisie players I think BB: 85 (on level with Alderweireld, Vlaar, Wisgerhof, and 1 point higher then Derijck, Bouma and Ooijer) seems fine to me.
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby Gugu » 2011 Sep 18, 14:01

Updated Technique and Speed stats with Mr. Evans' suggestions.
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby ynwasg8 » 2011 Nov 07, 20:09

Id suggest a raise in mentality and stamina.
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Nov 07, 20:12

Some advice, since your a new member you have to add argumentation for your suggestions otherwise you'll just get ignored.
thor34 wrote:JUMP: 80/81/82. Digestible methionine and leap up to splice the header. From what I saw the half-length coat will easily to Angeleri.
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Re: Thomas VERMAELEN

Postby ynwasg8 » 2011 Nov 08, 04:35

But he fights for the ball till the last minute and completes 90 minutes , I think he should be on par with prime Rio ferdinand. What do u think.?
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