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walt0 wrote:Maybe isn't neither of the two. Maybe the players of Argentinian League aren't so fast as the players of Portuguese League. Something similar occurs with the balance in the English League, many of others countries says that the BAL in strikers and defenders are overrated, but maybe those players deserve that value cause in Premier League the players have more balance and are more burly.
Djoni wrote:vickingo_73 wrote:How many games did he play? Entire games?
We took a lot to rate this player, and here he demonstrated those values, he's really speed or may be Portuguese league players are athlets as said walt0(a joke)
Can you read english please? I said maybe he needs more time, so please, don't come here joke with our league.
When Gaitán arrived to Benfica, he had 84 TS and 86 ACC, remember? He was bad rated. He is not an explosive player at all. And this is only an example. Another is Riquelme, but I won't bother talking more about him.
So, or Portuguese players are really athlets, or argentinian mods are doing a bad work. What will it be?

vickingo_73 wrote:Djoni wrote:vickingo_73 wrote:How many games did he play? Entire games?
We took a lot to rate this player, and here he demonstrated those values, he's really speed or may be Portuguese league players are athlets as said walt0(a joke)
Can you read english please? I said maybe he needs more time, so please, don't come here joke with our league.
When Gaitán arrived to Benfica, he had 84 TS and 86 ACC, remember? He was bad rated. He is not an explosive player at all. And this is only an example. Another is Riquelme, but I won't bother talking more about him.
So, or Portuguese players are really athlets, or argentinian mods are doing a bad work. What will it be?
Excuse me, when I've post my message I didn't read your comment, just answered walt0's message. Emm, if you have suggestions explained and numbers of Riquelme, just put it in that thread, here is Enzo Perez's. It was only a joke mate, for sure he needs more time, I haven't doubts that when he'd addapt to European gameplay style, he'll great there and may be transferred to another better league. And you're being sarcastic man with your last phrase, why can't I make a short joke? If you have suggestions for Argentinian players, just open those threads and explain your suggestions. I wasn't in the forum (or at least I wasn't mod) when Gaitan went to Benfica, so please try to difference the works and try to get information before talk.
I think that make a general status like: "Argentinian league players aren't so fast as Portuguese's league players". This isn't true because there are examples of players and other examples. A phrase like this IMO is useless because we have to focus in each player, and not in a whole league.
Could be true that MOST of portuguese's league players are faster than Argentinian's but not all, because for example Marco Perez, Menseguez, Noir I'm sure that are faster for example than Saviola/Cardozo. So this phrase isn't true. In this I agree with you Djoni.
I watched since he started his career in Godoy Cruz, and then his amazing time in Estudiantes, and I can say that he's really fast, here he was one of the fastest of the league, may be since he plays in other position (here at first he played as "8" (SMF), then played as "10" (AMF) and then as SS; he doesn't demonstrate such fast movements, but I think that with more time, he'll demonstrate his good TS-ACC-DS. It's all right Djoni, but I think that's unnecesary the last phrase.



Estudiantes. He wanted to back to home cause his mother has a difficult health moment. It was difficult the transfer but was a great sign of Veron in this...he put money to deal a loan by 6 months. Each time is bigger La Bruja in Estudiantes and in Argentinian football with signs like this. It's curious that with Enzo Perez's and Andujar's transfers; Estudiantes has almost the same team that won the Libertadores Cup in 2009 and made that great match vs Barcelona in Mundial de Clubes. Only is missed Angeleri (in Sunderland) and Alayes (in Banfield). Without saying that Schiavi was contracted by 4 matches to play in place of Alayes. Currently they have a great team, probably a bit old, but a great team btw.


Who else agrees on certain things?Tellmo wrote:In the match against Gil Vicente, Enzo made some moves similar to those of Gaitan, one of them was the fact that the ball too "glued" to your feet, certainly deserves a DA highest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo6C8rs_SDk
Def Could be at least 58 (carlos martins and Hugo Viana are 58, but I think enzo perez defends a little better), agree?
His passes could be better, could be yellow SPA, Mainly LPA could be higher, and LPS could be 76.
Swerve Could be 80 (I Remember That goal against Real Madrid).
Tenacity Could Also be higher! 72 For a player who demonstrates claw to defend is very little! He is a player who is not afraid of physical confrontation, Often hurt Themselves (cut lip) for Lack of serenity in bids ...
Tw might be 80, is similar to a box-to-box, help in attack and defense, currently, he playing at position 8 (almost 10).


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