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Fernando Gago

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jul 16, 23:09

if somebody can see the match with argentina, looks his passes, are really really good, stay with great vision too. what a player, i really like him

and i think the diference between his TS and ACC is bigger, maybe TS:77/ACC:80 could be better, his ACC is good in 80 but i prefer his TS in 77

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Jul 17, 01:13

I like Franco's suggestions about TS/ACC.

Emm, correct me if I'm wrong. If we take into account jurgens and JVMP's definition of TW, I was paying special attention in Gago's work in the midfield. He is a totally allrounder of midfield. He is always asking for the ball, looking for it, and showing himself as an option to a pass. He does it ALL the time. I don't like him, but I have to recognize that he makes that work better than anyone in NT. So, Doesn't his TW (with this definition) be something like 90? I'm just asking. If not, I don't understand the point.

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jul 17, 01:16

i think you're right victor about his TW, he always seraching the ball, and to me definitely can have something like the number like you suggest

I.T.: C could be an option?

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Jul 17, 01:28

TW 90? That's too much. That would put him over the likes of Busquets and Moutinho. He played two good games for Argentina but he wasn't that good. And we can't base stats on two games, remember he hasn't been performing all that well for Real Madrid the past two seasons.
He could sit on a higher TW in the future as he's still young but a 84 is fine for now.

I think you're right on his IT being a C.

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jul 17, 01:32

but his TW isn't based only in his 2 match with the NT, he always play searching the ball...

true, 90 is too much, but need an increase if we based in the theory of jurgens

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Jul 17, 02:02

It was just a question from my part to understand how TW works exactly and the point of jurgens and JMVP. Gago is an excellent example for this.

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby RodryPincha » 2011 Jul 17, 02:08

Injure Tolerance C.
This man lives injured.

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby riva » 2011 Jul 21, 01:40

TACTICAL DRIBBLE= gago dominates the ball very well
PLAYMAKER= because he reads the game easily
PASSING= because he does passes very well
MARKING= he can mark to other player easily, when lose the ball
1 TOUCH PLAY= he is very good does plays

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Jul 21, 03:40

You're exaggerating. The only thing that i COULD agree but I'm not sure is with Tactical Dribble. But IMO his TW and passes could be better and his MENT worse 2 or 3 points.

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby Fixer » 2011 Jul 21, 09:59

He doesn't even know what he's asking for. Just check his posts.

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby julgui » 2011 Jul 21, 12:47

It may not make sense but I think 70 in SA most high.
Pinpoiting pass (I do not remember as it was). But apparently in the NT is highly applicable. Do you think Fixer?

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby Fixer » 2011 Jul 21, 12:55

Fixer wrote:Yeah he's quite...'afraid'. Still he's a nice long passer, and for his best matches with Real he could actually use PPP. Not sure If we should give It imo tough.


Pretty much :P

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby riva » 2011 Jul 24, 23:31

he have teamwork 88

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jul 24, 23:42

no, he have 84 :lol:



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again with this... apparently have chances to play in boca the next six month on loan, and with the possibility of renew for six months more, he's going to get married and he like the chance to come to _arg

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby rossonero99 » 2011 Jul 25, 16:15

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Jul 25, 16:39

Mate we can't put pics now.

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby Xyder » 2011 Jul 25, 16:48

So, we need to add PPP and some any other tweak. I think there aren't consensus about other tweaks.

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Jul 25, 17:29

I suggested a few more points in his TW and I'm pretty sure that he's slower and his DS is worse. Also I think that's a big mistake here: His MENT. He never was a strong head player, I watch him as a technical player, with great pass, but without commitement to recover the ball, he's lazy to be a world class DMF, really. I have doubts if he deserves a yellow number. He runs the whole match because of his STA, but his MENT isn't good. Also he should have IT: D :D

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby Xyder » 2011 Jul 25, 17:53

vickingo_73 wrote:I suggested a few more points in his TW and I'm pretty sure that he's slower and his DS is worse. Also I think that's a big mistake here: His MENT. He never was a strong head player, I watch him as a technical player, with great pass, but without commitement to recover the ball, he's lazy to be a world class DMF, really. I have doubts if he deserves a yellow number. He runs the whole match because of his STA, but his MENT isn't good. Also he should have IT: D :D


I'm going to test some values, these changes are near a new set :lol:
But, ok, I try to come here later with my proposal.

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Re: Fernando GAGO

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jul 25, 21:07

i'm agree about speed, to me with TS 76 could be fine for him
about DS i'm not sure, maybe is fine whit the actual value
about MENT, i'm disagree, i see him in teh matches whit "commitement to recover the ball"...
i didn't realized his MENT was decreased, whit this STA/MENT is fine

agree in IT: D :lol:

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