Ibrahim Afellay

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Ibrahim Afellay

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 19:58

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The young PSV playmaker Ibrahim Afellay. Afellay debuted aged 17 for PSV in 2004, quickly becoming a regular for the topside the following 2 years. 2005-2006 proved to be the youngsters' breakthrough due to the injury-struggles of Vayrynen and Beasley. Afellay also made his Champions League debut against Schalke 04 in that season.

After the departures of Van Bommel and Vogel, Afellay quickly grew out as a regular in the PSV midfield along with Timmy Simons; playing 23 Eredivisie matches and scoring two times. It was also the first season one of Afellay's weaknesses showed though, as the playmaker suffered from several little niggling injuries. His injury tolerance didn't improve much in the following years but his abilities steadily grew, now making him one of the best players in our league.

Onto the stats. Afellay is very offensive and rarely if ever tracks back. If he does track back though, he usually causes a foul because of his rash challenges and non-existent sliding abilities. He's had a lot of luck so far, because plenty of red card offences were not punished. Afellay is very quick from the go and can outpace a lot of Eredivisie players in the first few yards. He's also extremely agile, skipping past challenges with relative ease; if not he will be probably fall down injured. He's also a regular diver, afraid of getting challenged and picking up an injury. Ibrahim has impressive dribbling ability and can pick out a really good pass. His short is very hard but inaccurate, he often misses shots and overall isn't very productive goal-wise.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 May 23, 20:54

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Anyway let's get the cards/stars fixed and close this thread please. Everything he does gets exaggerated because he's a Barcelona player and it's very annoying.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Fixer » 2011 May 23, 20:55

Amen. When you're ready, Xyder. I let you the honours.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Xyder » 2011 May 23, 21:13

Updated with my suggestions taking in count every other suggestion. I'll try to clean up the thread a bit, when the forum can keep a bit of calm we can discuss if he deserves the SPA/SPS update or if him deserves Quick Scissors Skills.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Fides » 2011 Jun 05, 12:13

Yesterday he made a fool out of Dani Alves in some counter attack following a corner. He passed him with a scissors dribble and outran him with the ball on his feet!
Based on his Barca and late NL performances I would agree to higher DS and for me its quite sure he deserves the Quick Scissors Skills card. Also he is showing he can dribble, cross and pass with his leftie aswell. At least WFA: 6 IMO. Sometimes I think it should even be 7.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Xyder » 2011 Jun 05, 12:17

Well, Tasmin PMme with the same suggestion about Scissor Skills. So we can add it to him, do you think he deserves a raise on WFF too, Fides?
I won't unlock the topic yet, maybe in some weeks when all the players are in holidays period.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Fides » 2011 Jun 05, 12:21

Oh lol, didnt even notice it was locked:P Uhm, yeah I think WFF could be 6 aswell, but that is less clear then his WFA, which should be at least 6 for 100% sure.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Xyder » 2011 Jun 05, 12:24

Ok, I just added S19 and WFA/WFF on 6.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby e-server » 2011 Aug 04, 04:38

I suggest TS 89-90 for affelay. He is very very fast. faster than Pedro and Messi! Watch him against Malaga last season final la liga game for barca. affelay was electric. he repeatedly burned malaga center-halves.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Diego » 2011 Aug 04, 06:22

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby mcmattie » 2011 Aug 04, 06:45

Interist wrote:wasnt not so impressive
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But yeah his speed is rightly rated now. Agility could be a litttle bit higher though. And perhaps attack 78?

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Fides » 2011 Aug 17, 07:18

Yeah makes sense. He gained muscles and weight since he left PSV.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby henry14 » 2011 Aug 19, 16:52

I think we can change the following:

Shot Accuracy: 74 (+1)
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7 (+1)

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Xyder » 2011 Sep 22, 21:15

Injuried for all the season, thread lock until he recovers.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Xyder » 2012 May 29, 16:15

Finally recovered, unlocked thread. Maybe some adjustments to the new standards?

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby čale » 2012 May 29, 16:21

not much to be done really, apart from RES 75/76 max and low 70's MENT with TW 75 max IMO.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby mcmattie » 2012 May 29, 20:01

Well these values look like pretty harsh changes to me. When I look at the ladder in Spain, he will be put on values way below average for these stats. If there is indeed a new standard, then values like you suggest should be applied to all players.

Resp can go down a bit, but 75/76 looks really low to me since the bare minimum resp in Spain for his positions is 73. 79 should be ok.
A low 70s Ment value you suggest is pretty uncommon for a player of his positions. 77 is about average in Spain so that seems good.
I don't think he's that selfish to deserve a TW of max 75. I think he looks pretty well for teammates that are in better positions than him, but of course he does try his own actions from time to time since he has the abilities for that. 79 should be ok for him.

Considering the new Att standard it should go up to at least a 79/80.
Agility could be even higher. I think he's very agile and a higher number might suit him better.
LPS 79. It's a little bit too low now.
We should also look at his SA and ST. He hasn't scored that much of course, but his values are a bit below average.
And lastly he gives pretty good curling in his balls. 78/79 should be good.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Fixer » 2012 May 29, 20:08

mcmattie wrote:
Resp can go down a bit, but 75/76 looks really low to me since the bare minimum resp in Spain for his positions is 73. 79 should be ok.
A low 70s Ment value you suggest is pretty uncommon for a player of his positions. 77 is about average in Spain so that seems good.


I don't see why being below the average Is an argument to rate Afellay.

mcmattie wrote: When I look at the ladder in Spain, he will be put on values way below average for these stats. If there is indeed a new standard, then values like you suggest should be applied to all players.


The proccess Is not instant, can't expect to have all players rated in a brand different way at once. It'll be applied to all players.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby Xyder » 2012 May 29, 20:53

cale's suggestions looks fine to me, we need to adapt some players to the new standards but this doesn't justify if we need to be harsh or not.
I also like him on a better ATT value and a lower TS, the lower TS it's the same case as Messi, he can run insanely, true, but he doesn't do it enough to warrant this high number. Default 81 talks for itself, but IMO he can deserve 83 perfectly (at least is what I'm using).
About SA/ST, not sure, default SA 80 looks high but I feel he can deserve something better, like to see him with Dutchland to be sure. Curl 79 it's ok to me.

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Re: Ibrahim AFELLAY

Postby furymaker » 2012 May 29, 23:29

i wouldn't touch his stats until after the EURO , hadn't had time to prove or show anything , doesn't deserves any kind of increase or decrease

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