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Jon Flanagan

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Re: John FLANAGAN

Postby fishdalf » 2011 Jun 04, 13:05

By all mean change the stamina / speed for both if you believe them to need a bump.
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Re: John FLANAGAN

Postby fishdalf » 2011 Jun 04, 19:37

Ok did a bit more comparing and contrasting and wracking my brain for more accurate values for the ones mentioned and here are the tweaks I believe work.

Attack: 66
Defence: 67
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 82
Long Pass Accuracy: 74
Aggression: 76
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Re: John FLANAGAN

Postby lfc 4 eva » 2011 Jun 04, 20:50

Attack should be about 65 in my opinion, he doesn't get forward much really.

Defence doesn't need a raise either, 65 is only 2 below Johnson so it's still a decent value.

Agree with your other suggested changes though.

Finally I don't think his crossing is quite worthy of a green number yet.
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Re: John FLANAGAN

Postby fishdalf » 2011 Jun 04, 23:28

Are you kidding? Flanagan has a mean cross on him when he actually finds the space to get one in.

His attack would be fine at 67 as it mostly contributes towards defensive positioning to which he is close to Johnson. In a few years he'll surpass him in this area, mark my words.

It's his aggression that has been suggested for lowering by me as it reflects a little better his lack of many forward runs, although he does get forward on occasion during a match.
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Re: John FLANAGAN

Postby PIPA23 » 2012 Jan 07, 17:00

he might accept Ireland NT call and join the senior national team of this country..

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Re: John FLANAGAN

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Re: John Flanagan

Postby PIPA23 » 2013 Jan 01, 21:52

guys, please chainge his name, he is Jon, not John ;)
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Re: Jon Flanagan

Postby Korinov » 2013 Nov 03, 11:15

Kid's fast. Not sure how fast, but in the Arsenal match he didn't seem to be much slower than Gibbs, at least in terms of Acc (Gibbs did seem to have an edge regarding sustained speed over distance). I'd say something like mid yellows for both TS and Acc. DS didn't look great though, it seems he doesn't have much confidence when running on the ball, mostly jogs with it. Also displayed good LPS more than once, but LPA was hit and miss.
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Re: Jon Flanagan

Postby PIPA23 » 2013 Nov 25, 00:05

Flanagan against Everton, he was one of the better players that game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfF0tfazh5I
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Re: Jon Flanagan

Postby Vranny » 2013 Nov 25, 04:27

Herein lies the problem with a compilation video of a defender's touches. It misses all the times he got burned on Everton's right by Deul and Mirallas because he was no-where near the ball :P He had a decent game overall though.
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Re: Jon Flanagan

Postby čale » 2013 Nov 25, 07:27

i actually came here to say how flanagan is possibly the worst fullback i've seen in recent times...he's sluggish, slow to react, weak and doesn't know how to defend, nor how to tackle, it looks like his go-to move on defence is "stick a foot and let's see what happens"...
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Re: Jon Flanagan

Postby ferge » 2013 Nov 25, 20:25

čale wrote:i actually came here to say how flanagan is possibly the worst fullback i've seen in recent times...he's sluggish, slow to react, weak and doesn't know how to defend, nor how to tackle, it looks like his go-to move on defence is "stick a foot and let's see what happens"...

Well that really didn't look the case at all on Saturday. 9 tackles, 4 interceptions and 3 clearances while out of position, in a derby and with very little game time this season doesn't seem too shabby.
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Re: Jon Flanagan

Postby PIPA23 » 2013 Nov 27, 21:22

exactly..the kid gets thrown in Arsenal and Everton stadium with no other games before and delivered a decent if not above decent performance...
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Re: Jon Flanagan

Postby Mr hellsing » 2013 Nov 28, 03:05

cale could be right about some of his performances, but i do have to say that hes only 20 and the kid has some potential, sometimes is a little awkward to watch a joung boy with almost 0 experience this season playing arsenal at once, but tbh he was not intimidated by any way, i like that in a player
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Re: Jon Flanagan

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Re: Jon Flanagan

Postby PIPA23 » 2013 Dec 15, 18:03

He might not be best technically, but he is hard working, tidy defender who playes with heart....certain Jamie Carragher started his career like that as well... played in fourth match in row as LB today. only one of them was not full 90 minutes and only one of them Liverpool lost, and won in rest thre with big results.
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Re: Jon Flanagan

Postby PIPA23 » 2014 Jan 28, 22:34

outstanding against Everton....he steped up realy well....he outplayed Baines...
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Re: Jon Flanagan

Postby jfb33 » 2014 Jan 29, 01:11

Yeah, he was great. Response seems like one of his best quality. He play very aggressive trying to cut pass a lot.
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Re: Jon Flanagan

Postby PIPA23 » 2014 Feb 09, 10:03

he is now playing all the time as right or left back, perhaps he would deserve an update..?

his passing in Arsenal game was great:

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