Hólger Matamoros

[Basilio]

Nickname: "Chicharra", "Matita", "La Polilla"

[manoloxcr17]

Could you expain why the low value in Response and why the high values in the passing abilities?, seems overrated for a SMF.

A SMF with Playmaking, a weird thing.

[Basilio]

i know its a really weird thing to see him whit playmaking but IMO he is not the typical SMF that like to wins the line, he is exactly the opposite, he likes cut looking for a teammate to leave him in front of GK, anyway im going to remove it and add passer, as he is being a little selfish dribbling and then he makes a perfect timed pass.

im making some changes in this set probably the following but before doing them i want to know your opinion :

1- SPA/SPS (-2): he have great vision but not so good passes while playing far from box.
2- LPA/LPS (-1): he is good at this but probably i gave him too much.
3- ATTACK (+1): he performs intelligent races, his very effective and he have deadly passes.
4- RESONSE (+1): really nothing special, he doesnt intercept much passes and he doesnt score much goals whit this response but he does do it somethimes .
5- remove playmaking abilitie.
6- add passer card.

[manoloxcr17]

You must know that Response is not only about inrercepting, is the game reading in general.

What is the relation between deadly passes and Attack? There is no relation in there mate.

[Basilio]

you should read this, and if you try inzaghi in pes with konami default stats you will notice he is deadly with passes, didnt know about response was that ( ty ) , well he is quite good reading but he mostly concentrates in his game than what is happening in the field.
i will update him with my last suggestions plus and extra point in response, really... really thanks about saying me that response thing .

[manoloxcr17]

What do you men with "deadle passes" (in spanish please).

[Basilio]

pases de la muerte, dejarlo uno contra uno , no se como mas explicartelo.

[manoloxcr17]

Changed to the new format.

[Basilio]

i have so many possibbly updates to do here, though the set as a whole is pretty good. so bad i just cant update the players i create and only i see playing

[manoloxcr17]

Leave your suggestions and I will update him, stop being so dramatic about it, you don't need to use sarcasm you know?

[Basilio]

do you even know what is sarcasm ?

[manoloxcr17]

do you even know what is sarcasm ?

Do I have dictionary face?

[Basilio]

i dont know how is your face and i am not interested in it, though i apologize, i dont want problems, but it annoys me that you dont accept mmy luis caicedo set, and that somethimes we reach an agreement but theres no update. Im not criticizing your work, but this section have basically 1 mod and it is a big section

well my thoughs on the set are the following:

for sure he deserve most of this stats as he have shown being a technical enough player to derserve this, but he is very stupid, constantly confusing himself attacking. He is selfish and somethimes he craps easily attacks, but he have always have a great eye for killer passes. Firstly i want to say that he have more playing style from an AMF than SMF, yes his main position is SMF, but i still want to rate him as AMF ladderwise, cuz he is more an AMF than a SMF, yea confusing but true. I want to replicate his stupidity but as well give him the ability of that sharp eye he have for killer passes, so i suggest the passer card and decrease his TW by 2/3 points, as well give him a boost to his Short Passes by 2 each, and i supose that would replicate him pretty good. 'Bout his DA, ill say he totally deserves it for his close control and mainly for his dribbling, but i suggest a 1 point decrease as he somethimes clueless of how to dribble the opposition, with his high agility and 82 DA, his dribbling with be fairly replicated. I also think i was to generous with his TS, he simply isnt fast at long runs, but he have madness while on the ball, he somethimes run forward sprinting without any idea, he always shows great DS and a lot of ACC but not TS. I suggest -1/2 on TS and taking up his DS by 1/2 points as well depending of the decrease of his TS. Ou yea i almost forgot, i have no clue why i rate him so strong, he isnt definitely strong by any means, he scapes from physical challenges due to his first meters sprints and reat agility, but he is freakinly weak. I also suggest 2 points raise on his SA and 1 point more on his AGG( always join attack ), very similar to damian díaz there 8) in both. Finally is suggest 1 points drop on response, he is such an stupid there, his reactions are fine with acc 88.


Summing up:

Passer card/star
TW: 78/77
SPA: 78
SPS: 78
DA: 82
TS: 83/82
DS: 86/87
BB: 76
SA: 76
AGG: 79
RESP: 77

[Blaster]

Ok, this is stupid.

[Basilio]

So im setting on the base on some conmebol players here, whilst i do agree some standarts should keep lower than other leagues, not all, and not so much, i mean the DEF and RESP ratings for strikers and defenders are really a shame...The worst defenders i.e bonnuci on pair with the bests on here ? how is that possible ?

The thing is, he is one of the man to be compared too, as such as diaz, barcos, caicedo, oyola, etc. I might have gotten a bit over the top with some values like luis caicedo's defence, but id like to see an improvement on conmebol stats/stnadarts and he is one to be based on.

Ive done this changes to matamoros( good player, been doing particulary well last 6 months ):


ATT 75<77

BB 78<77, he can resist some challenges, but he is for the most of part weak and avoids physical confrontation.

STA 80<81 i would go like to 84 if it were for PSD standarts, but it isnt, id like to take the readings about stamina this past weeks within the forum into consideration, and just give him 'what he needs'.

TS 84<83 nah, never showed and speed of 84, he always seemed a bit slow for playing in the sides to my liken, but he compensates with his good technical abilities, and knowing how to make use of his not bad speed.

ACC 88<85 lol he is just average, though he have some quickness on his feet

SPA and SPS 76<78 better passer of the ball than this, kind of like a semi playmaker semi winger, yes thats what he is...

SA 74<76 he is great placer, he just misses the good connection, and he performs very well curling shots every now and then

ST 77<76 ^^ misses the right connection constantly, when he is given space, time and he does decides to take it, he can be deadly.

CURL 79<81 he have some good curling

TECH 80<83 he have good first touch on different situations, i cant see him under matri for example

AGG 78<83 seriously why conmebol it was too low, for any standart, theres IMO no standart for aggresion, its the likeliness to join up attack, how can that have standart ?! he is normal aggresive, somethimes relies more upon his playmaking skills and decides to start the attack from deep, and somethimes he is the one who makes the runs at the wing.

Removed middle shooting and decreased weak foot stats by 1( have him ever made use of it really ? )

EDIT: also added shoulder feint skills as he performs it frequently

[Vickingo]

Wasn't 83 in Tech?

[Basilio]

thank you

[Blaster]

Sorry wrong post lol

[Luisito]

his speed and agility is his main power other then that his finishing and passes are notin special , i would rather see on wing Guerron for Matamoros in Barcelona much faster and better finisher

[Basilio]

he is a 76 teamwork, changing that. He does have tendency to participate in the build-up, somethimes drifting to the center to do so, and thats exactly what happens with 76 tw