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Gastón Monzón

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Jul 05, 12:57

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Nov 13, 06:28

notes vs riverplate:
he made a great save. In general he made things look easy. Where Vega was making easy saves look difficult. So the announcer thought vega was having a great match...when in reality he was just making things harder on himself by slow reactions and average positioning. Where as Monzon had solid positioning and reactions and never really had to make crazy looking saves.

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby Manolo » 2010 Jan 05, 08:39

It seems to me that opened to decrease the Power Shot, I've seen in several games, I've also seen on the field, and really is not as strong as other archers to take. When can the plays in extracting short and not so powerful.
However, with reductions of 79 to 76 think it would be nice

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby jmg721 » 2010 Jan 05, 08:45

Shot Power Ladder for keepers
86: Cristian LUCHETTI, Roberto ABBONDANZIERI
85: -
84: -
83: Cristian CAMPESTRINI, Germán MONTOYA
82: Sebastián TORRICO, Diego POZO, Sebastian PERATTA, Juan OJEDA, Mario VEGA, Jorge BROUN, Marcelo BAROVERO
81: Sebastian CEJAS, Gastón SESSA, David GONZALES, Mauricio Ariel CARANTA, Daniel ISLAS
80: Javier GARCÍA, Agustín ORIÓN, Hilario NAVARRO, Ezequiel CACACE
79: Gastón MONZÓN
78: Damian ALBIL, German CAFFA, Nicolás Gaston NAVARRO, Pablo MIGLIORE

He already has one of the weakest Goal Kicks in the league...why do you think 76 is better than 79?

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby Manolo » 2010 Jan 05, 08:55

jmg721 wrote:Shot Power Ladder for keepers
86: Cristian LUCHETTI, Roberto ABBONDANZIERI
85: -
84: -
83: Cristian CAMPESTRINI, Germán MONTOYA
82: Sebastián TORRICO, Diego POZO, Sebastian PERATTA, Juan OJEDA, Mario VEGA, Jorge BROUN, Marcelo BAROVERO
81: Sebastian CEJAS, Gastón SESSA, David GONZALES, Mauricio Ariel CARANTA, Daniel ISLAS
80: Javier GARCÍA, Agustín ORIÓN, Hilario NAVARRO, Ezequiel CACACE
79: Gastón MONZÓN
78: Damian ALBIL, German CAFFA, Nicolás Gaston NAVARRO, Pablo MIGLIORE

He already has one of the weakest Goal Kicks in the league...why do you think 76 is better than 79?



If not 76 but maybe 78 because I think Migliore has a more powerful shot that Monzon's more, when a penalty kick against tiger left him kicking at its potential.

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby lucardax5d » 2010 Aug 15, 20:50

I suggest:

Keeper Skills: 80 -> 82: (Damian ALBIL, Gastón SESSA, Jorge BROUN, Pablo MIGLIORE, Germán MONTOYA).

It's clearly a great goalkeeper, and in almost every recent matches Huracán has been one of the figures. A lot better, and has ability to difficult shots on the opposing team.

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby Messias18 » 2010 Sep 06, 14:10

I would place him in 81 for KS ;)
vickingo_73 wrote:S11 - Penalty Saver

Not sure about that.

vickingo_73 wrote:But, what about Aggression 75?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Also agility, STA, TS, DS and ACC are under the standards and SA, ST FKA, Curl, LPA, LPS, Header and tec are above the standards. Bad set

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby lucardax5d » 2010 Sep 07, 00:36

Very good statistics vicking!

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby Messias18 » 2010 Sep 07, 22:55

Thanks vickingo. Here the GK goalkepper standard

Att: 30
Sta: 69
TS: between 68 - 70
Acc: between 69 and 72
DA: 52
DS: 58
SPA: 56
SPS: 65
LPA: 63
LPS: 68
SA: 44
ST: 44
FKA: 44
Curl: 48
Head: 44
Tec: between 50 and 52

So, I will make another changes, No penalty saver for now ;)

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby jorgecavs » 2010 Oct 24, 20:03

lucardax5d wrote:New photo

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They say *Penalty Stopper? I think if Monzón does cover another penalty, deserves this skill.


What about responsibility? I thought it was one of the best here.
He is the best player in Hurricane since the Tiki-Tiki disappeared.
And the Defense? Always in the right place.
My suggestions, maybe I'm wrong but are these:

Defence: 82 | is very similar to Montoya , for me exactly the same, have the same technique.

Top Speed: 70 | It's fast legs when bailing out(cuando sale achicar un mano a mano) as Montoya.

Acceleration: 71 | ""
Response: 84 | Here is a great response, 1 less than Montoya, like Barovero.

Agility: 76 | Slow, difficult to get off the ground

Keeper Skills: 80 | Here I think it is 2 less than Montoya and Baovero. The rarely catches the ball, always gives bounces or sends it to the corner

Condition/Fitness: 7 | 50 games in a row.

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby lucardax5d » 2010 Oct 24, 20:48

jorgecavs wrote:
lucardax5d wrote:New photo

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They say *Penalty Stopper? I think if Monzón does cover another penalty, deserves this skill.


What about responsibility? I thought it was one of the best here.
He is the best player in Hurricane since the Tiki-Tiki disappeared.
And the Defense? Always in the right place.
My suggestions, maybe I'm wrong but are these:

Defence: 82 | is very similar to Montoya , for me exactly the same, have the same technique.

Top Speed: 70 | It's fast legs when bailing out(cuando sale achicar un mano a mano) as Montoya.

Acceleration: 71 | ""
Response: 84 | Here is a great response, 1 less than Montoya, like Barovero.

Agility: 76 | Slow, difficult to get off the ground

Keeper Skills: 80 | Here I think it is 2 less than Montoya and Baovero. The rarely catches the ball, always gives bounces or sends it to the corner

Condition/Fitness: 7 | 50 games in a row.


Just kidding? Gaston Monzon is one of the best goalkeepers in the league, and has no further explanation. It contained almost all parties Hurricane, is one of the best goalkeepers in the tournament dates, and you want to put 80? I really think Monzon deserves an improvement worth 82. I agree to all the other changes.

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby julgui » 2010 Oct 24, 23:36

GK: 80 is very bad. He is GK segure.

His agility is very bad in the current set.

You would increase the AGG, since together with Nico Navarro GK what else is out to cut.

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby jorgecavs » 2010 Oct 25, 12:33

lucardax5d wrote:It is impossible, 80 is insane, vs hours. San Lorenzo was one of the figures (again), 80 is crazy. I suggest 82, but 81 is fine.


KS is not only an important quality for a goalkeeper, is also Response, Defense, Balance, Jump, Agility.
And in general is a good Goalkeeper, but not in KS.
Gabbarinni is like, just because it saves a lot of kicking 30 shots per game.
(porque le patean 30 tiros por partido).
80 is the maximum for me, as said before, gives many rebounds and sent the ball to corner, never grab.

I agree with AGG 68.

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby jorgecavs » 2011 Mar 15, 18:51

lucardax5d wrote:Without doubt, the Torta Monzón deserves *1-on-1 Stopper.

It is one of the best goalkeepers of AFA in hand to hand.

jajaja that joke is very good. :lol:
Defense green for me. and 81 KS? not on par with Gabbarini and Lucchetti.
Is among the 5 worst GK today.
It's just an opinion can be shared or not. ;)

My general suggestions by looking at the ranking.
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Defence: 79 | Is among the worst, very badly down the three posts.
Stamina: 66 | Cada vez que se esfuerza para atajar queda hecho mierda, para mi que ni le puede dar una vuelta a la cancha. :lol:
Agility: 77 | Like Tripodi, Migliore, Torrico...
Jump: 79 | Another major flaw. Like Islas, Tripodi, Tombolini...
Keeper Skills: 80 | And Thanks. ;) . Like Marchesin y Nico Navarro, -1 than Gabbarinni and Luchetti.


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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby xeneize » 2011 Apr 10, 15:31

maybe
TS:69
ACC: 70/71
AGG: 67
MENT: 78
similar of the changes of pozo

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby lucardax5d » 2011 Apr 10, 15:53

xeneize wrote:maybe
TS:69
ACC: 70/71
AGG: 67
MENT: 78
similar of the changes of pozo


Totally agree with those changes. I suggest 71 at ACC. Finally we must add:

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
1-on-1 Stopper

PLAYER INDEX CARDS:
S12 - 1-on-1 Keeper

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby xeneize » 2011 Apr 10, 16:08

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mira, cuando sugeri que le pongan a pozo S12 - 1-on-1 Keeper me dijeron que mejor esto:
vickingo_73 wrote:Take into account that he has 83 in DEF, a really well value, so, that level of ubication + (if we don't change his Response), I think that will be enough to cover the 1 on 1 fights. May be we could raise his levels of Mentality and Aggression, may be MEN to 81 (-2 than Carrizo) and AGG to 65-66, and this mix of DEF+RES+MEN+AGG will make him a really nice keeper on 1 on 1, and that makes no necessary to put the special ability. What do you think?

Defence: 83
Response: 85
Mentality: 81
Aggression: 66

me parece que si no le ponen a pozo esa carte y le suben la DEF, RES, ETC, con monzon habria que hacer lo mismo( como los valores que te sugeri) porque si pozo no la tiene monzon tampoco la tendria que tener. o sea subirle la AGG, MENT, ETC cubriria la falta de la tarjeta. yo prefiero la tarjeta y listo pero bue. con pozo hicieron eso.

understand? jaja

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Apr 10, 18:11

Aggression only affects a minnimium percentage in go outs of the keeper and 1 on 1 stops, that is affected by his mentality and TS and ACC.
I don't like Monzon, but he's crazy when he goes out.
I suggest Mentality in 81-82 and will be fine

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby xeneize » 2011 Apr 10, 18:17

i think MENT:81, on pair with pozo

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Re: Gastón MONZÓN

Postby lucardax5d » 2011 Apr 11, 18:58

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xeneize wrote:i think MENT:81, on pair with pozo


Yes, 81 sounds good, but I insist that deserves 1-on-1..

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