Lucas Bernardi

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[calleklein]

he left for Club Atlético Newell's Old Boys
Source: http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/spieler/ ... rofil.html

[BECKS23LA]

Mouve pls!

[jmg721]

I was not overly impressed with him at all.

He played more of a DMF/CMF role, while Bernardello was more of the pure DMF role in the MF. He didn't impress me with his Defensive positioning(76), or his stamina(89)...in fact he was subbed out during the match, and wasn't running THAT MUCH(could have been tactical I guess). Obviously the high BB is do to his low stature, and he definitely didn't look "strong". I actually thought he was a bit faster than that, but I could be wrong. I'm sure its due to his size, and also re-evaluating now that I've made Liverani a 68TS/69ACC. I thought his aggression could be +1or2. I actually thought Bernardello was the "Gattuso"/"Ahumada" type DMF...not Bernardi. 91 mentality seems a bit over the top from what I saw. I would not put him at a higher value than Schiavi for instance.

Injury Tolerance: C
Condition/Fitness: 8

That's rare

[drgenmad]

- stamina is overrated he is almost always changed, he wasn't fit when he came from monaco, 82 or 83 would be fine now

- TS should be 75 or 76 is not that slow
- acceleration is fine i think
- DA could be +1 or +2 he does a lot of tactical dribbing DS is fine
- SPA and SPS are overrated he is not that accurate, he is old -2 could be
- TEC could be +2 he is skilled
- Agression could be at least +5, bernardello is more DM so he can atack a little help in the creation
- Mentality can be lower a lot 86 maybe
-Injured should be B he has been the hole year with out lesions
- Condition and fitness tops 5, he is old
- constancy 4 or 5, not that constant really!

[Facu!]

Defense can be less, like 72, now that he's old he doesn't have the skills he used to... in Newell's Bernardello do the defense work and Bernardi then pass it...

And Short Pass Speed can be increased, like 84 or 85...

And... CONDITION 8?! Have to be kidding lol... now he can't play all the match, in most of the games he leaves with 15 minutes to play... but when he plays he does it well...

[drgenmad]

i agree with the 72 and i think that he is not that accurate in passing, the stat is fine as it is. what do you think about my suggestions??? we have to reach an agreement so that they can be updated.

[Facu!]

Yeah, 72 in deffense is perfect...
Dribbling Accuracy 75 is well (maybe too much), nowadays he doesn't dribble, he just make the passes...
And about passing, he's old that is what it make him good at passes... he knows where to pass the ball and quickly cause of his experience...
Mmm... technique i'm not sure...
Mentality is how fast does he get tired right? A lot less! Like 73 believe me he can't play an entire match...
Condition and Fitness 3 or 4

[Messias18]

Let's start with the update we all agree

Defence: 76 --> 73
Stamina: 89 --> 84
Aggression: 65 --> 68
Mentality: 91 --> 85
Condition: 8 --> 5
Consistency: 6 --> 5

[Facu!]

That's right...

Instead of Special Ability Sliding he should have One Touch Pass...

[drgenmad]

Yeah, 72 in deffense is perfect...
Dribbling Accuracy 75 is well (maybe too much), nowadays he doesn't dribble, he just make the passes...
And about passing, he's old that is what it make him good at passes... he knows where to pass the ball and quickly cause of his experience...
Mmm... technique i'm not sure...
Mentality is how fast does he get tired right? A lot less! Like 73 believe me he can't play an entire match...
Condition and Fitness 3 or 4

mentality is not how fast does he gets tired, mentality is related to different moments of the game and the player performances, for example if you are playing an important match and you are losing, hi mentality player will keep on playing in a good way, low mentality players will start playing badly. check mentality in the attribute posts.

so:
- i agree with defence 83
- STAMINA (piggy....)
Key attribute for: All players
Useful attribute for: -
Determines how quickly a player will tire. The higher the value is, the greater his endurance will be.
stamina maybe lower 78 or so, according to facu!
- agression we can agree.
- mentality we can agree i think he is strong in mind but 85 it's enough.
- condition 5 it's fine, he plays all the matches but he is retired early lowering the stamina should do it.
maybe next season he will be fine, but this year he was rushed to play and with non pre season, so... that's why....
- constancy i agree.

[Messias18]

Are you sure about Stamina? I need see more his... But remember that Riquelme has 81 for example

[drgenmad]

he is really in bad shape, he can't stand a hole game. because of the pre-season and all that. he well get better in that department next year but for now he is in bad shape. facu! thinks the same, but he overreacted with a 73.
check newell's vs gimnasia de jujuy this year and you'll see what i'm saying.

[Messias18]

Updated!! (I will put stamina in 80)

[drgenmad]

all right. i like it a lot more.

now i would take out sliding and outside of the boot.

- and add tactical dribblin ( rising tec to 78 at least) like facu said he is not that fast now so he use his ball skill.
- add + SP he is known for that strong shot and i've been watching adriano and roberto carlos thread, and there says that they don't usually lose the SP sbility roberto carlos (36 years old) is now 86 so maybe he can be with 31 85 or 86. he is the long kick shooter for that reason. (middle shooting maybe)
- covering check some videos if you can, he is always covering SMF. he is not a slider anymore.

what do you guys think?

[Facu!]

73 at defense is OK, I look him playing all the games and in 2 matches he only recovers 1 ball with luck. Bernardello recovers and then Bernardi pass quickly and open de game... (abrir la cancha, i don't know how to say it in english sorry ^^)

[drgenmad]

i've tried it with 86 in SP and works just fine for him.

i will leave my suggestion, but it's all good

[drgenmad]

his constancy should be on 6 now. and his condition in 6 or 7 and his stamina one or 2 points up. he has shappen up and he has proben it.

PD: injury tolerance definitly in B. not and injury

[drgenmad]

here is a general update for this guy

Lower ATT
Def 76
Sta 82
TS 76
Agi 78
DA 77
Spa 81
SP 84
Tec 79
Injury B
Cons 6
Cond 6
*¨Tactical Dribbling
*Covering

opinions?

[Facu!]

Mmm... first of all... i think his pass stats should be higher... his match against Independiente was great. And since he come, he has a great vision of the game...

I'd remove sliding without doughts xD! I think that in the last two years he only slided twice? xP. I'd add *Passing

Lower Attack = Agree
Def = I believe he's ok. I mean, his doesn't recover the ball, that's Mateo/Barriento's job. Mateo or Barrientos recover it, then the ball should pass through him because he has the best vision of the game. He organizes (does the word exist xD, sorry)...
Sta+Ts+TS+Da = Agree
Passing Skills = I just said my opinion, i'd give him a general improve.
I wouldn't give him techinque 79... just because the ladders... i'll leave it at 76 77...
Injury C-->B = In the whole season he never got injured
His condition could be raised too... we all thought he couldn't play anymore because of his age and condition but i believe he's fine