ty for doing him, terrific player, anyway i find terrible underrated most of his stats, he is just a magician on foot abilities( except passing ) he definitly needs long ranger card and middle shooting ability.. some vid's to explain:
- as you rate him as SS he can definilty be on yellow areas for shooting, he is a true placer of the ball he can shoot with amazing power from long distances and place the ball excelent, IMO what is indeed controlled too with ST, amazing clean connection, he can shoot form very complicated posistions as shown on goal vs mexico and have very good volleys too .
- i cant see the reason of him not having scissor skills as well.
- he have very good dribbling, always facing the opposition ( normally with scissor skills ) but as shown on ecuador's NT he alsso confront's a lot with ( enganches ) from left to right for then shooting with precision, technique and power.
- his speed is also underrated, specially DS, he always run's with the ball on his feet and it seems like he is even faster with the ball, his ACC is very good too, and decent but worse TS.
- not much words about FKA or curl, just underrated as hell, he scores a huge amount of them and always send them into the box. a yea almost forgot, his FK crosses are wondeful as well.
- considering bryan de la torre and marcos caicedo( ecuaodrian conmebol players ) are sitten on 80 tech and they are still "juveniles"( sub-20 ) arroyo is an easy 82. - the only thing overrated here is TW, he is way selfish than this, and di maria is going to get a downgrade( big downgrade ) he is just not in pair with him.
General notes: a very similar player to nani, normally uses incisive run, high speed, with a great shoot, but IMO better shoot... world class indeed, similar to robban whiile shooting...
MARCA published a detailed description of him and there are several things that don´t match wuth this set, starting with positions, MARCA places him as a SM on both sides as his main positions...HEIGHT is also 1.81, according to them, great on both feet and very quick, with a truly GREAT LONG RANGE SHOT, and 82 maybe doesn´t represent that...
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he have amazig long range shoot, he aint so fast( but is fast enough ) and isnt SS neither SMF, he usualy plays there in ecuador but that is because he doesnt fit anywhere else on NT. Ill say he aint a SMF cuz he doesnt defend, usually attacking but he doesnt feels complete confortable on that position, in his best days in derpotivo quito he was a WF( on the left side ) there he feels very confortable and would be good to rate his shooting skills. Ill stick to my suggestions with some tweeks:
FKA: 81( very accurate often over the wall and directionated to goal ) CURL: 85( amazing curl, nice vertically and brutal horizontally ) now ill go to test it( with my past suggestions and actual tweaks ) and share my opinions
EDIT: sorry forgot to say he surely( my god of course ) needs scissors skills, he performes it every time somethimes is even frustrating. also incisicve run and long ranger, still got to test it more and tomorrow post a new set
Thanks for the explanation basilio really good work
Your explanations sounded good but im not sure.... I want to see what manolo thinks this is set
Im only sure about Long Ranger for sure he needs it always looking to shoot from long range and his shot power looks a little underrated I'm thinking 84-85. Incisive Run for sure deserves it. About fk acc and curl I havent took a look at that but it might be underrated. I also think his DA is underrated from what Ive seen he dribbles the ball close to his legs im thinking bout 82-83 for that also tech could come up pretty decent control.
His height im not sure what it is I tried to check san luis official site but it dont work
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when in do a set i dont like to put any other bullshit on my post so let me do this in 2 steps... im sorry i forgot to post it a lot of times, i was too lazy to write explanations but now that an answer have been given to me, i felt forced to do it.
Club: San Luis Name: Michael ARROYO Shirt Name: ARROYO Number: 8 Positions: *WF( he is the combination of an SS and SM as he likes to play on the side but never defends ), SM, SS Nationality: Ecuadorian Age: 24 (23/04/1987)
Speed & Dribbling: he is fast on first meters usually while confronting his marker he shows great mini bursts but IMO he isnt that fast to be considered a fast player...about AGI, DS and DA i need to expllained as a whole with ACC as all this stats affect each other. When you change a single point is going to affect all combo and how it works on game. Is not that drastic but it happens really. Well talking about arroyo he usually makes fast body turns with good ball control though his control is not really impressive, he can loose easy balls driblling, his dribbling is much more based on Scissor skills, pretty much always do scissors. I firstly went to 83 agility and 82 DA but it was too effective, ill decreased it for 1 on each and now feels natural.
Passing: not that crappy, could be even considered as good specially on his Deportivo Quito days, played some killer passes while there. i had him on 74 and 74 first on short passing but then i realized his passes are accurate but they always go bouncing.
Shooting: The most impressive asset from him, what distinghish him from a regular player. He can be compared to the phenoms of robben or even nedved when its about middle shooting, though obviusly not that impressive. His shots are not constantly very good placed cuz he doesnt look to corners just blasts from everywhere, but they are always accurate, i mean he shots from any position and they goes always to goal. His ST is even more impressive, his shots are excelent on volleys, under pressure, clean connection and more impressively at shooting from anywhere. I had him at first on 80, 85, and 84 but i felt them too powerful( i know he shots very fast always but not that fast ) so i decreased it 1 point and problem fixed. Now you should be wondering why his shooting stats in the set as what i have said, well thats because i decreased them 1 point on SA and ST to try to fit more on PSD standarts but he was too wasteful at game so i increased them again, whathever i put him -1 in ST to try to fit on PSD standarts but i wont put him like that in game...His free kicks are impressive, always accurate and well placed, rarely goes to barrier. I liked the 81, 85 suggested before but with the free kick style i assigned to him is enough with 84 for curling. Im still thinking youre going to disagree on his SA and ST but i tell you for once, he is one of the best in the world with it comes to middle shooting, if you want him to fit on standarts put him whathever you want, but if you want it for gameplay( the database is made for making a better gameplay lol ) give him my selected stats.
TECH: Yes i suggested before an 82 and i went to 81. THis is due to the fact that he is very inconsitent in this trait, he can make magic happens and he have a precious first touch on his best days, but on his bad ones he looses balls a child wouldnt.
AGG: very aggresive player, constantly join up on attack, i tested with 85 but then i saw him one more time and i saw he wasnt that regular, again depending on the day. he also needs higher for his position change.
MENT: He sucks here, he is an idiot mental talking. He just plays under his conditions and constantly looses his mind, somethimes red cards and yellow ones regulary, getting angry for sensless situation, disscusing with manager or reffere, awful facing adversity, never chears up, not good when pressured, and finally sucking when he looses his stamina. ALL ABOUT MENTALITY IS AWFUL ON HIM, EVEN HOUNDING!( but mentality doesnt make a player chase, but thats another story... )
He is a great player but sometime greedy with the ball. Some recommendations: Top Speed: 83 Acceleration: 84 Shot Accuracy: 77 Great goals from far like Fabian Shot Power: 84 Technique: 81 He is a technique player Aggression: 83
so you update with suggestions from a guy who have rarely even seen him, knows little about stats, almost non explanation, no testing either, and you completely ignore my set. People if you want a player who fits with PSD standarts use first post set...if you want a player that feels right on gameplay use my set. Bad update, and very disrecpectful
How do you know he hasnt seen him? He actually watches the mexican league... Also I updated on both of you guys having the same values.. Plus I also updated with some of your values if you didnt notice..
Also I didnt ignore your set I just havent had the time to check it out.. when I did, I responded to it didnt I? I appreciate the effort you put some good time on this set and testing .
Your trying to start problems cut it out mate I wasnt being disrespectful to anyone
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i dont want to start problems, it just get on my nervs when i suggest things like SA 80, ST 83, etc. but people think its too much for a winger bla bla... i made a thread about this problem i have, called "Players that brake up standarts", seriously people tend to follow too much standarts in PSD, completely forgetting about gameplay
Yes I watch a lot of the Mexican League for all my life specially because my family has a Mexican store and we have a TV so yea. Basilio I didnt explain that much because you already did that for some stats. But I dont think his SA is 80 and ST is 83 i have seen him miss more than enough shots which he makes a lot because of his dribbling abilities and greediness with the ball. Sometimes I make mistakes with stats but thats why people discuss things, but I think its hard because we need in Mexican League forum more people that watch Mexican League games. I only know soccermaniak, ballack and me that watch the league and post stats and suggestions.