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Christian Abbiati

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby fadjriemilan » 2011 Feb 02, 06:59

I think we need to boost his RES to 90 and GKs to 85..
as he showed it this season, he is one of the most on-form GK in Serie A this season..
his handling is better and 1 point raise is justified IMO.. 88 for RES is already good but he deserve 90.
he is a better shot stopper than Marchetti (88) and Boruc (89)

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby rossonero99 » 2011 Feb 02, 17:18

Definitely Abbiati, I think that is the best GK in SERIE A now:

I share my suggestions:

Defense 90 (Buffon had 95)
Speed 68 (Buffon had 71)
Acceleration 69 (Buffon had 74)
Response 90 (Buffon had 94)
Agility 80-81 (Buffon had 83)
Short Pass Acc 52-53 (Buffon had 54)
Jump 84-5 (Buffon had 87)
Technique 51-52 (Buffon had 56)
Metality 82-83 (Buffon had 82)
GK Skills 85-86 Buffon had 94)
Team Work 78-79 (Buffon had 84)

I compare with Buffon, allegedly the best GK in CALCIO.

What do you think my friends ?


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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby fadjriemilan » 2011 Feb 06, 06:07

Maybe just RES and GKs this time.. and maybe jump too.. 82 MAX. the rest are fine, and I think we don't need to increase his passing or speed as he has showed nothing on that department.
AGI is fine at 76, he didn't use his agility much to stop shoot but his RES.

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby bodhisattva » 2011 Feb 07, 09:23

rossonero99 wrote:Definitely Abbiati, I think that is the best GK in SERIE A now:

I share my suggestions:

Defense 90 (Buffon had 95)
Speed 68 (Buffon had 71)
Acceleration 69 (Buffon had 74)
Response 90 (Buffon had 94)
Agility 80-81 (Buffon had 83)
Short Pass Acc 52-53 (Buffon had 54)
Jump 84-5 (Buffon had 87)
Technique 51-52 (Buffon had 56)
Metality 82-83 (Buffon had 82)
GK Skills 85-86 Buffon had 94)
Team Work 78-79 (Buffon had 84)

I compare with Buffon, allegedly the best GK in CALCIO.

What do you think my friends ?




look how different is the world...
i think is one of the worste! The really handicap for Milan is have thse kind of GK,.,,

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby Zeem » 2011 Feb 07, 12:40

He has been having a good season but is still caught in worng positions. Look a Floro Flores's goal, Abbiati opened the goal for him. 90 defence will make him too good.

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby ScribbleyDoibus » 2011 Feb 12, 05:07

If Reina has a 90 in DEF, Abbiati deserves at least a 88 or 89

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby zuo » 2011 Feb 12, 12:19

i disagree. for sure his Defence asset is under is Response. also can't we make a sort of update with him.
i believe is occasional positioning mistake is more frequent than Frey's one (frey is @DEF 88). fine with consistency 6 and agility @76 with 92 kgs.
with that agility and consistency valuies couldn't we put him at DEF @86 and RES @89........and add injury C maybe.

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby Rogatto27 » 2011 Apr 02, 23:21

My Suggestions:
Defence - 88
Top Speed - 69
Acceleration - 71
Response - 88/90
Agility - 81
Keeper Skills - 86/87

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby zuo » 2011 Apr 03, 00:16

disagree to defence raises. but he could be more 'effective' than now in the game. possibly seb could do a review?
Abbiati positional game is under a good numbers of keepers even in the serie A. ex. frey,de sanctis,julio cesar...and possibly others.
could say that his 'close range' response is possibly better than his 'long range' response. he's just very good/lucky at times doing instinct saves from very close range hits.

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby Akron » 2011 Apr 03, 01:44

His Response always is really impresive. 88 doesn't make him justice.

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby adieet » 2011 Apr 03, 01:56

He's on red arrow for today ? :twisted:

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby zuo » 2011 Apr 07, 17:54

by now switched template, update response(+1),updated condition(+1) and IT:C.

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby xeneize » 2011 Apr 07, 22:28

nice changes

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby Gugu » 2011 Apr 23, 17:38

I think his Keeper Skills could at least be on par with Frey - to me he's been a grat pair of safe hands. He rarely drops a ball and his handling is excellent - he can catch some venomous strikes without patting it down/losing control etc. He is some way better than 'Calamity' Eduardo - Could get a raise to an 88 - he is quite similar to Tim Howard in this regard IMO.

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby fadjriemilan » 2011 Apr 24, 00:28

See what he is capable of?

No, it is not just one game, he is Serie A best goal keeper this season.

RES should be in early 90 at least with GK skills should get a deserved raise. He is improved in that area this season, as Gugu said, his handling is amazing.

Agree with GK skills to 88, he will on par with the like of VDS, Cesar, Reina, etc. I know it is a huge update but he deserved it.

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby rossonero99 » 2011 Apr 24, 00:31

ScribbleyDoibus wrote:If Reina has a 90 in DEF, Abbiati deserves at least a 88 or 89


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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby zuo » 2011 Apr 24, 14:16

in current ladder terms isn't even an 87 defence imo. he has got the occasional positioning mistake...
i'm currently testing defence 86 response 90 gks 86 ....i believe it's quite realistic.

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby Gugu » 2011 Apr 24, 19:32

Agree, I'll test those values (and my preference of Def 86, Res 89, KS 88) will get back to you...

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby fadjriemilan » 2011 Apr 24, 22:48

I have him on DEF 87 RES 91 KS 88. Agree with DEF decrease though, he made some positional mistakes and 86 is good for him.

RES 91 will make him on par with Buffon, Alves. On 90 with Gomes, Hart, Howard. Between 90 or 91 will be good, he is more responsive than Bizzarzi or Boruc (89)

KS 88 is on same level with VDS, Cesar, Valdes, and I think he is on that level too. (maybe biased) Frey is 87, I think Abbiati is a bit better. In 86, there are Boruc, Lloris, Mandanda, those players are mistake prone, Abbiati doesn't belong there.

My suggestion

DEF - 86
RES - 90-91
KS - 87-88

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Re: Christian ABBIATI

Postby zuo » 2011 Apr 26, 02:42

i was again looking at some video evidence....could even agree to ks 87 gugu but not higher...
again you'd disagree to response @90? has developed a good insticnt saving and decision making.....also he's 92 kgs and ,imo, not really agile...
not that elegant or fast goinf low....or getting up.....generally not an agile figure. response @90 was suggested also for his low agility.
maybe def @86 res @90 ks @87?

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