Carlos Babington | 1973-1974

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Carlos Babington | 1973-1974

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Sep 27, 23:20

Club: Huracán

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Re: Carlos BABINGTON | 1973-1974

Postby Il Codino » 2010 Feb 22, 16:56

Updated with new format and a little overhaul.
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Re: Carlos BABINGTON | 1973-1974

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Re: Carlos BABINGTON | 1973-1974

Postby Jez » 2010 Mar 20, 01:43

I feel like I'm being really picky and uptight, but could you remove the bold on the post? :oops:
It just bugs me a bit because it doesn't fit with 99% of the stats layouts on the site. Again, I'm not trying to be an arse about it, just saying :)
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Re: Carlos BABINGTON | 1973-1974

Postby Il Codino » 2010 Mar 20, 03:14

No problem mate, fixed ;)
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Re: Carlos BABINGTON | 1973-1974

Postby lucardax5d » 2010 Dec 12, 19:17

Clearly needs to increase its Free Kick Accuracy. To Babington it was easier to become a free kick, what in a penalty. It was really incredible ease to score goals on free kicks..

It is also necessary to increase their skills. The technique was one of the best skills of Carlos Babington. Had "atada al pié", he could splice and stop as he wanted. Once, playing in Huracán, a move the party there was a rebound, and the ball went too far in the air, but when the ball was falling (very quickly), Babington down with his foot so that stadium applauded. So, I suggest these changes:

Free Kick Accuracy: 85 -> 92/93 (I suggest 93).
Technique: 87 -> 94/95 (I suggest 94).
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Re: Carlos BABINGTON | 1973-1974

Postby John1 » 2012 Feb 04, 03:34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EnMWw3bGbQ

A nice video of this brilliant footballer
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Re: Carlos BABINGTON | 1973-1974

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Feb 14, 03:03

This guy was owner of a huge talent and one of most remembered players in 70's here. Talented and technical, he was able to make incredible gameplays into the pitch, a classic no. 10 of that era but this guy was simply awesome...full of quality his left boot. This set needs some changes, mostly with lasts revolutions. His attack should be really high, I'm not saying that as awesome as prime Riquelme, but at least middle's 80 to represent his incisiviness and fantastic decisions to pass through defenders. Stamina/Mentality must have a massive decrease...was those type of players that doesn't need those high ratings at all...I see more accurate high greens in stamina and low 70's in mentality, less than nothing special was this guy.
His speed stats must have a massive decrease too (TS/ACC/DS/RESP)...82 in RESP? wtf? This guy was very relaxed and didn't use it at all, doesn't need more than 77/78 to represent his style of classic no. 10. I have doubts about his agility also, he was able to make quick turns but he didn't use it at all, he was more elegant for what I could watch of him.
TW is an issue, his understanding with his teammates was godly but his off-the ball movement didn't...not sure in 86 though...will be omnipresent and accurate in his passes as hell, plus a raise in ATT will be an explosive and dangerous combo.
If you update him, could you give him the new format?
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Re: Carlos BABINGTON | 1973-1974

Postby John1 » 2012 Feb 14, 18:05

As vickingo said, he was the godfather of Bocha and Roman in terms of his playing methodology. Relaxed, concise, deliberate (and intuitive too), relaxed and smooth.

He was not a fast player, but his stamina was not bad. He did not hustle much and wasn't that strong of a player. His obvious strengths were dribbling, ball control, passing, vision and decision making abilities...oh and a brilliant set piece taker he was.
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Re: Carlos BABINGTON | 1973-1974

Postby JeffVR98 » 2017 Jun 04, 20:57

LPA One of his mainly skills, reminds me to Luis Suarez, not powerfull in his passes but 100% accurate, he knows how synchronize his passes to compensate his lack of power, he deserved low orange level for sure. (90/91)

DA could be in high yellows, classic playmaker, oriented to do more tactical movements to open spaces to make passes, he has a decent close control back in those days probably 88/89.



AGI Could go down to low green levels (79) he don't was a example in that aspect he was more a classic playmaker

Probably he don't deserved the trickster card, don't fit in his style.
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Re: Carlos Babington | 1973-1974

Postby Vickingo » 2017 Jul 27, 14:12

Well added to the DB and given him a full update. I will explain most of changes and what I could get from the images I could access which is basically all it's online on internet. I was excited about knowing him more cause I knew he was great but I can say I do love his style and I understood why he's regarded as one of best AMF's in Argentinian history.

I'll quote myself just to contradict some of my past statements cause watching him more I realized some other things about this guy.

Vickingo wrote:This guy was owner of a huge talent and one of most remembered players in 70's here. Talented and technical, he was able to make incredible gameplays into the pitch, a classic no. 10 of that era but this guy was simply awesome...full of quality his left boot.


This is absolutely true...he was able to make some nice movements on and off the ball. Also it's true he changed something when he turned old and in 80's, and for sure his best era was 73-74 in Huracán and mainly at NT. He was named as 3° best Southamerican player in 1974 behind Elias Figueroa and Chagas...that's really great considering Argentina's WC wasn't that good...he was the best player of the team for sure that cup. And yeah his left boot was just class, I'm impressed about his elegant but at the same time (yeah strange) fluid movements to avoid 2 or 3 players in tiny spaces, his DA was absolutely lovely to see and admirable his control of the ball. He was pure control cause he used to have some speed when he wants to but he never used it...football was slower and that was his benefit...his brain was over the 90% of the rest of players back then.. So he took advantage of it.

His attack should be really high, I'm not saying that as awesome as prime Riquelme, but at least middle's 80 to represent his incisiviness and fantastic decisions to pass through defenders.


I was wrong in here, I thought he was more adventorous but he wasn't...I wasn't impressed AT ALL by his SPA tbh, he was secure at his passing, good distributor but he has no pace at all in them and he didn't give so many assists throught his vision and passing. He was a master of LPA...probably his main quality, great vision over distances and to distribute the ball as well...the pace wasn't a factor either but he was in charge of any set pieces and he showed decent power. Attack and shoting are in those numbers to replicate how dangerous he used to be to score...not that great numbers but the guy has % of goals per match very impressive for the type of player he was.

Stamina/Mentality must have a massive decrease...was those type of players that doesn't need those high ratings at all...I see more accurate high greens in stamina and low 70's in mentality, less than nothing special was this guy.


I mantain this, he doesn't need more than that, it wasn't his role at all.

His speed stats must have a massive decrease too (TS/ACC/DS/RESP)...82 in RESP? wtf? This guy was very relaxed and didn't use it at all, doesn't need more than 77/78 to represent his style of classic no. 10.


Tricky one...his speed was decent when he wants to but 99% of time he just walked with the ball or in a min. speed...he was quite relaxed and as i said he used to think a lot on the ball (meanwhile he dribbled between players that's fantastic). I left his response/defence bit higher cause I noticed he was quite good at it, his tackling was something you wouldn't expect from him tbh and he was quite responsive to loose balls in the midfield and also in the box to score, I was wrong about that.

I have doubts about his agility also, he was able to make quick turns but he didn't use it at all, he was more elegant for what I could watch of him.


I have a headache rating this and I'm still not sure. His foot movements were absolutely fast to dribble and change directions quickly...but at the same time he's the relaxed elegant Zidane's style kind of player...tall and slow at his body movements...except his foot...that's just magic imho. So I left a decent number to replicate that but could be wrong.

TW is an issue, his understanding with his teammates was godly but his off-the ball movement didn't...not sure in 86 though...will be omnipresent and accurate in his passes as hell, plus a raise in ATT will be an explosive and dangerous combo.


Decent movement but at all that good...it was in old standards.

I didn't find his 1st touch that impressive tbh, only watched 2 taken downs in godly mode but that's all...for sure he was great at technical skills but I don't find him THAT good to have better numbers, i'd even take down a little bit more.

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