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Neymar

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Mar 19, 01:54

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby tasmin » 2010 Oct 14, 16:07

well guys,

make realistic updates ! don't make him somewhere in GOD region ;) .

he is a great talent but it doesn't mean he should have all the cards and higher values in every region!

he hasn't prove anything in the international level yet.

what i feel pato has much quality than neymar but he is underrated .

he is good in speed and dribbling, but yet to prove his stamina and mentality against tough opponents and conditions .

once players like robinho,pablo aimer,saviola these guys showed great quality in their early stage but now are they in the same level anymore!

so relax and wait, the values he had is enough. just wait to see him in highest level than you may update him !

i would say him exceptional if he can show consistency in the highest level , if he shows strong mentality in tough condition and can win things for his team with his own magic and quality.

what i feel he gained higher stats quite easily in very early age! he is quick, he dribbles well doesn't mean he became match winner !

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby squallzinn » 2010 Oct 16, 03:59

As I have said before, I strongly disagree with Attack, SA and ST.

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby ThaReaper01 » 2010 Oct 16, 04:26

squallzinn wrote:As I have said before, I strongly disagree with Attack, SA and ST.

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby tamaguchi_japa » 2010 Oct 17, 20:14

well for me i've updated him in my of with:

SPA: 74
SPS: 77
LPA: 76
LPS: 77
SP: 81
ST: 79
CUR: 80
TEC: 87

and imo he fells more like Neymar, but its only minor changes, and about Pedala's suggetions, i dont think TS/ACC 89/93 or 90/92 will be so different, so i'll test it, but comparing with pato i could agree.

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby adieet » 2010 Oct 30, 20:58

His dribbling card is fine i think..Maybe we can discuss 1-on-1 finish ?

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby Oswaldo » 2010 Oct 31, 11:49

I can agree with you japa, but I'd keep his Shooting stats as they are. Also regarding Pedala's suggestions, I'll be:

TS: 89
ACC:93
SPA: 74
SPS: 77
LPS: 77
CUR: 80
TEC: 87
AGG:90
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Re: NEYMAR

Postby squallzinn » 2010 Oct 31, 14:49

I just agree with downgrades

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby tamaguchi_japa » 2010 Nov 02, 12:15

ok, i agree with my previous suggestions, plus what oswaldo wrote, except for AGG: 90, imo he dont deserve same as Higuain.

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby .Maguss. » 2010 Nov 10, 14:43

I'm with you.

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Nov 10, 15:05

Updated!

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby jurgens » 2010 Nov 18, 05:06

Was really skeptical of an 18 year old being this good. Figured the brazilian mods over rate their talents. Been hard to get matches.. but I got two or three and after seeing him live today he looks very well rated. Really good stats, I have total faith in all the young Brazilians with world class stats being rated well now. Like ganso/neymar/hernanes etc after witnessing hernanes and neymar alot more (both who I thought were over rated) doesn't matter that they don't play in europe, their abilities are undeniable. I think you should restore ganso's passing values to what they were originaly. I belive you rated him correctly and he was nerfed unfairly.

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby Ajacied_Breda1 » 2010 Nov 20, 09:44

jurgens wrote:Was really skeptical of an 18 year old being this good. Figured the brazilian mods over rate their talents. Been hard to get matches.. but I got two or three and after seeing him live today he looks very well rated. Really good stats, I have total faith in all the young Brazilians with world class stats being rated well now. Like ganso/neymar/hernanes etc after witnessing hernanes and neymar alot more (both who I thought were over rated) doesn't matter that they don't play in europe, their abilities are undeniable. I think you should restore ganso's passing values to what they were originaly. I belive you rated him correctly and he was nerfed unfairly.


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Re: NEYMAR

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Nov 20, 20:15

Makes me really proud, thanks jurgens. Is really nice to see that there's guys that still trust our works, even more being it on PSD, where everyone seems to think we (brazilian members) are dumb.

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby JMVP » 2010 Nov 20, 20:28

Actually i'd raise his DA to 90. There's not many players in the world, no matter the age or the league, that can control the ball like Neymar does. He is nothing short to players like Quaresma, and probably Robinho too, in DA.

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby Luisao82 » 2010 Nov 20, 21:58

IMO we could even raise it to 92 (-1 than Robinho) and I'm seriously considering *Speed Merchant for this guy.

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Nov 20, 22:23

I'm not disagreeing, but I think it's too early to give him a value over Aguero, so close to Robinho yet... I mean, I'm not denying his amazing skills with the ball. I just think he's more of a agile/explose player than a player who dissaseamble defences with JUST close control. I still see Robinho really over him on this aspect. At most, I would agree with a 89 for now, but it's just one point. On other hand, DS can be decreased by one point. I'm basically suggesting a switch on DA/DS.

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby tamaguchi_japa » 2010 Nov 21, 15:02

well thanks for these words jurgens, i'm proud to hear that u trust in our work, when most members think he cannot rate a player just because he isn't in europe ;)

about neymar, i could agree with switch DA/DS, its only +1/-1 ;)

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby Albo7 » 2010 Nov 21, 15:49

I don't wanna sound like overconfident with the brazilian mods, but Brazil is the country that raised Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Romario, etc etc, just some classic names that everyone of us remembers and has seen, just not to go deeper with names from the 60s or the 70s, and my point is that brazilians know what they see & what they say coz all of these legends are seen in their first steps by these guys, before making history in some european club.

So these 2 mods along with the entire brazilian nation have to have some reason whatsoever to be so enthusiastic with Neymar and Ganso.

If some german, english, italian, etc player would be rated with these stats in this age , I'd make sure to see all of his matches to believe it, but when it comes to brazilians... It's a different matter.

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby welimer1223 » 2010 Nov 21, 17:27

Using the outside of his foot: at 1:17

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Re: NEYMAR

Postby welimer1223 » 2010 Nov 21, 17:45

I think his ST should be +3 or +4. Look at his goals grat part shooting in hard angles. also his goal on Santo André is appoited in the puskas trophy.

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