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Marcos Cáceres

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby Vickingo » 2010 Sep 03, 23:38

Julgui, I think that his registered position now (and since a year) is *SB. I know that he started playing like *CB, but meanwhile the CB still being Martinez, Aveldaño and Ayala, He will be SB.

If you agree, Defence could be lower like 74 (-5), and attack higher like 68 (+5)

Are you agree?

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby julgui » 2010 Sep 04, 04:20

mmm but look at his original position is CB. For more than lately to develop as SB.
Just see it raise its attack, going long the attack.
I suggest a 67 ATT/78 DEF and Aggressive 72.
What do you think?

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby Vickingo » 2010 Sep 04, 04:36

julgui wrote:mmm but look at his original position is CB. For more than lately to develop as SB.
Just see it raise its attack, going long the attack.
I suggest a 67 ATT/78 DEF and Aggressive 72.
What do you think?


Ok, and may be Extra Attacker card or is too much?

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby julgui » 2010 Sep 04, 04:43

Yes, because from his CB position it was not intended to attack but it was normal.

Update the rest of values. Thanks for the suggestions Viking.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby jorgecavs » 2010 Sep 07, 02:52

97% agree with this post. Excellent.
My notes from my fellow countryman. :mrgreen:

Name: Marcos Antonio Cáceres Centurión

Stamina: 82 --> 84 | He runs a lot, and stand for 90 minutes.
Consistency: ? --> 6 | Okay.


SPECIAL ABILITIES:
*Marking

I thought it was *SB as default

The rest I agree 100%.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby julgui » 2010 Sep 07, 11:41

Update!

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2010 Nov 08, 23:51

His main position is SB right? Because if he has 78 in DEF, it's a really HIGH value for DEF for any world class SB.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby jorgecavs » 2010 Nov 09, 00:03

manoloxcr17 wrote:His main position is SB right? Because if he has 78 in DEF, it's a really HIGH value for DEF for any world class SB.


I said it before, but did not matter. :|

Defence: 74-75
Balance: 83-84
Dribble Speed: 78-79
Short Pass Accuracy: 73-74
Shot Power: 82-83
Curling: 76-77
Aggression: 75
Mentality: 82-83

What you think of this?

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2010 Nov 09, 00:08

I agree with that. I would prefer 74 for DEF.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby jorgecavs » 2010 Nov 09, 00:31

manoloxcr17 wrote:I agree with that. I would prefer 74 for DEF.


I agree, very defensively, but not equal to Sagna.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby julgui » 2010 Nov 09, 02:23

But the CB is not SB. Your comparison should be with another CB. Example: CAHAIS!

jorgecavs wrote:97% agree with this post. Excellent.]


4 points of defense under in just 2 months? :S

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby Vickingo » 2010 Nov 09, 03:38

julgui wrote:But the CB is not SB. Your comparison should be with another CB. Example: CAHAIS!

jorgecavs wrote:97% agree with this post. Excellent.]


4 points of defense under in just 2 months? :S


Cáceres is a player who has a strange position like other players like Mercado, Rojo, Re, who started his careers like CB, but then when the DT's put the last line with 4 CB (AWFUL IMO), they have to do the SB's job, so are very difficult to rate. I think that Cáceres now is a SB clearly, and that's his registered position. We could put in 74 his DEF and decrease his aggresion (he doesn't cross the midfield)

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby julgui » 2010 Nov 09, 04:24

I disagree. Just play there, to play. Since the owners are different, but to the injury of Aveldaño or Martinez, he's CB. And often comes Lluy of SB. when it could Ayala.
Even in NT Paraguay is CB.
It's like lower the defense Cahais or Tuzzio by play SB. It makes no sense

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2010 Nov 09, 20:05

But we agree here that he was used more time as SB so you should register him as SB. As we have 3 agrees here I think we can update him with Jorge's changes.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby jorgecavs » 2010 Nov 09, 21:56

I know that juice as CB, but all the games I saw it as SB.
Cubero years playing as a RB, but his natural position is DMF. Beacause Cubero say this.
Caceres instead feels more comfortable playing as SB.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2010 Nov 10, 21:44

75 is already a high value for a SB.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby jorgecavs » 2010 Nov 11, 14:42

manoloxcr17 wrote:75 is already a high value for a SB.


yes, but also is CB
Attack: 67-68
Defence: 75-76
may perform well in both.

S07 - Man Marking
Is good in DEF. ;)

PD: A la mierda, es mejor que Papa, Cubero, Domínguez y Ortiz entonces. :shock:

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2010 Nov 11, 20:23

Let's stay in 75.

Let's wait for Victor's opinion to update him.

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Re: Marcos CÁCERES

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2010 Nov 11, 21:14

:lol:

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