Joe Hart

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Joe Hart

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 17:51

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Re: Joe HART

Postby tomaster » 2010 Oct 16, 09:02

It's simple: if they don't show it, it doesn't count, that is how pesdatabase works.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Gugu » 2010 Oct 16, 09:07

Exactly :D

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Mrky_MNE » 2010 Oct 16, 14:59

And according to that he should have high values for TS and ACC ;)

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Gugu » 2010 Oct 16, 15:09

So:
Should many other GK have it, who in a different context would run as equally or faster than said player?

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Mrky_MNE » 2010 Oct 16, 17:10

But we don't know would they run faster or not, untill they show it. ;) Hart showed awesome speed for a GK and IMO should be raised in speed stats.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby tomaster » 2010 Oct 16, 17:17

Not ACC, only TS.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby John » 2010 Oct 16, 17:31

I'd go for a high green in TS, we should wait for a mod's opinion first.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Gugu » 2010 Oct 16, 18:22

Saga So Far...

Crnogorac wrote:Just look at this. TS: 85 ? :D

tomaster wrote:WoW, maybe 90? :D
Crnogorac wrote:Nah, he would be on pair with Ronaldo. :D i think point below is good :D
Mateo1987 wrote:I have never in my life seen a goalkeeper running that fast! That was a run that even Ronaldo wouldn't be ashamed of.

Above 80 in Top Speed and Acceleration definitely!
AlboSoldier wrote:And don't come and say we can't rate players by a match. That run was stunning. It's impossible doing it with his current stats, red form or not.
gugu2903 wrote:WOW. OMG. *Jaw Drops*

Are youse seriously considering a new stats for speed. On the basis of that video alone, I'd agree, however a lot of goalkeepers could run faster. They just don't show it.
Das ist das! wrote:agree. we have an evidence for this player at least and evidence is evidence.
kratos1993 wrote:Holy crap!!! He should have speed stats in the mid 80's at least, that was one hell of a run
gugu2903 wrote:Then a lot of goalkeepers would have to be raised, to compensate. Probably a lot more could run faster then Joe, as I said in my previous post, they just don't show it.
tomaster wrote:It's simple: if they don't show it, it doesn't count, that is how pesdatabase works.
gugu2903 wrote:Exactly :D
Crnogorac wrote:And according to that he should have high values for TS and ACC ;)
gugu2903 wrote:So:
Should many other GK have it, who in a different context would run as equally or faster than said player?
Crnogorac wrote:But we don't know would they run faster or not, untill they show it. ;) Hart showed awesome speed for a GK and IMO should be raised in speed stats.
tomaster wrote:Not ACC, only TS.
tryfyllaraG9 wrote:I'd go for a high green in TS, we should wait for a mod's opinion first.


This suggested raise will create an anomaly in accordance with the other keepers. Don't you guys see :| :x :?: :

  1. It Will
    gugu2903 wrote:create an anomaly in accordance with the other keepers
    He'll be the outlier when compared to so many GK's and that is not on when this site strives to create accurate and methodical stats. :idea: With these suggested raises bandied about, some outfield players will have to be on a red value.
    Cesar - Overmars :?:
    Casillas - Edgar Alvarez :?:

    eff off :evil:
  2. He'll be too fast off the line. He is already very fast for a GK, do you guys want a fan-fed-full-fueled-frenzy :?: :!: :| He has very good response, and ACC already, he isn't actually God - Like in his speed.

  3. In PES, in in the correct context and using a certain dribbling technique, it is possible to simulate this run, believe me, I tried with slower keepers.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Mrky_MNE » 2010 Oct 16, 18:34

That's true. But it would be unfair to not update him, because he deserves it. On the other hand, it would be unfair for other GKs. I don't know, let the Mods decide :D

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Albo7 » 2010 Oct 16, 18:55

gugu2903 wrote:
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Chill.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Gugu » 2010 Oct 16, 19:08

*Exhales* :o
It was a short fury. I'm over it now.

I'm usually happy, and it's the 1st time I've ever posted with a smiley of which none were positive. But these nonsensical posts change me. They make no sense :o But look how many people agree with me. 1. I'm hopeless. It'll be updated.
It's going to be hell :cry:
In the meantime, ima call the mod-doctors in quick :)

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Chill.


I was going to post more, but I exceeded the max smileys allowed. :P

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Paddy » 2010 Oct 16, 20:38

I think we should drop his TS :lol:

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Re: Joe HART

Postby heerenveen123 » 2010 Oct 16, 20:42

It wasn't THAT good. I do that quite a lot when i play and if you focus on sprinting back to goal and nothing else the adrenaline will carry you. If you change the ACC and TS it will affect things like dribbling and ball control. He should be fast for a goalie (which he already is) and nothing more... faster than ronaldo? if ronaldo was sprinting at full pace, without worrying about chasing the ball or avoiding tackles, he'd be way faster than you think.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Gugu » 2010 Oct 16, 20:50

heerenveen123 wrote:It wasn't THAT good. I do that quite a lot when i play and if you focus on sprinting back to goal and nothing else the adrenaline will carry you. If you change the ACC and TS it will affect things like dribbling and ball control. He should be fast for a goalie (which he already is) and nothing more... faster than ronaldo? if ronaldo was sprinting at full pace, without worrying about chasing the ball or avoiding tackles, he'd be way faster than you think.


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Re: Joe HART

Postby Yourtjuh_PSV » 2010 Oct 16, 23:21

maby you should raise it, that guy is running like hell mate!
I thought I was watching a video game or someting :lol:

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Re: Joe HART

Postby ScribbleyDoibus » 2010 Oct 19, 13:18

99 TS and 99 ACC very funny. :lol: now switch it back :x

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Albo7 » 2010 Oct 19, 13:24

NO!

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Re: Joe HART

Postby tomaster » 2010 Oct 19, 13:43

OMG godlike speed, yes! He fully deserve it!

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Zeem » 2010 Oct 19, 13:47

LOL! Someone report the first post. He will intercept every in the box cross now.

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Re: Joe HART

Postby Jez » 2010 Oct 19, 14:15

Haha, guilty as charged, was wondering when people were gonna notice :mrgreen:
We should seriously consider his speed stats though. In fairness, he should probably be rated as one of the highest goalkeepers on the database anyway as he demonstrates week in week out that he is a brilliant athlete as well as a shot stopper

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