Joe Hart

[Tom]

[tomaster]

It's simple: if they don't show it, it doesn't count, that is how pesdatabase works.

[Gugu]

Exactly

[Mrky_MNE]

And according to that he should have high values for TS and ACC

[Gugu]

So:
Should many other GK have it, who in a different context would run as equally or faster than said player?

[Mrky_MNE]

But we don't know would they run faster or not, untill they show it. Hart showed awesome speed for a GK and IMO should be raised in speed stats.

[tomaster]

Not ACC, only TS.

[John]

I'd go for a high green in TS, we should wait for a mod's opinion first.

[Gugu]

Saga So Far...

Just look at this. TS: 85 ?

WoW, maybe 90?

Nah, he would be on pair with Ronaldo. i think point below is good

I have never in my life seen a goalkeeper running that fast! That was a run that even Ronaldo wouldn't be ashamed of.

Above 80 in Top Speed and Acceleration definitely!

And don't come and say we can't rate players by a match. That run was stunning. It's impossible doing it with his current stats, red form or not.

WOW. OMG. *Jaw Drops*

Are youse seriously considering a new stats for speed. On the basis of that video alone, I'd agree, however a lot of goalkeepers could run faster. They just don't show it.

agree. we have an evidence for this player at least and evidence is evidence.

Holy crap!!! He should have speed stats in the mid 80's at least, that was one hell of a run

Then a lot of goalkeepers would have to be raised, to compensate. Probably a lot more could run faster then Joe, as I said in my previous post, they just don't show it.

It's simple: if they don't show it, it doesn't count, that is how pesdatabase works.

Exactly

And according to that he should have high values for TS and ACC

So:
Should many other GK have it, who in a different context would run as equally or faster than said player?

But we don't know would they run faster or not, untill they show it. Hart showed awesome speed for a GK and IMO should be raised in speed stats.

Not ACC, only TS.

I'd go for a high green in TS, we should wait for a mod's opinion first.

This suggested raise will create an anomaly in accordance with the other keepers. Don't you guys see :

1. It Will

   create an anomaly in accordance with the other keepers

   He'll be the outlier when compared to so many GK's and that is not on when this site strives to create accurate and methodical stats. With these suggested raises bandied about, some outfield players will have to be on a red value.
   Cesar - Overmars
   Casillas - Edgar Alvarez
   
   eff off
   
2. He'll be too fast off the line. He is already very fast for a GK, do you guys want a fan-fed-full-fueled-frenzy He has very good response, and ACC already, he isn't actually God - Like in his speed.
   
   
3. In PES, in in the correct context and using a certain dribbling technique, it is possible to simulate this run, believe me, I tried with slower keepers.

[Mrky_MNE]

That's true. But it would be unfair to not update him, because he deserves it. On the other hand, it would be unfair for other GKs. I don't know, let the Mods decide

[Albo7]

Chill.

[Gugu]

*Exhales*
It was a short fury. I'm over it now.

I'm usually happy, and it's the 1st time I've ever posted with a smiley of which none were positive. But these nonsensical posts change me. They make no sense But look how many people agree with me. 1. I'm hopeless. It'll be updated.
It's going to be hell
In the meantime, ima call the mod-doctors in quick

Chill.

I was going to post more, but I exceeded the max smileys allowed.

[Paddy]

I think we should drop his TS

[heerenveen123]

It wasn't THAT good. I do that quite a lot when i play and if you focus on sprinting back to goal and nothing else the adrenaline will carry you. If you change the ACC and TS it will affect things like dribbling and ball control. He should be fast for a goalie (which he already is) and nothing more... faster than ronaldo? if ronaldo was sprinting at full pace, without worrying about chasing the ball or avoiding tackles, he'd be way faster than you think.

[Gugu]

It wasn't THAT good. I do that quite a lot when i play and if you focus on sprinting back to goal and nothing else the adrenaline will carry you. If you change the ACC and TS it will affect things like dribbling and ball control. He should be fast for a goalie (which he already is) and nothing more... faster than ronaldo? if ronaldo was sprinting at full pace, without worrying about chasing the ball or avoiding tackles, he'd be way faster than you think.

[Yourtjuh_PSV]

maby you should raise it, that guy is running like hell mate!
I thought I was watching a video game or someting

[ScribbleyDoibus]

99 TS and 99 ACC very funny. now switch it back

[Albo7]

NO!

[tomaster]

OMG godlike speed, yes! He fully deserve it!

[Zeem]

LOL! Someone report the first post. He will intercept every in the box cross now.

[Jez]

Haha, guilty as charged, was wondering when people were gonna notice
We should seriously consider his speed stats though. In fairness, he should probably be rated as one of the highest goalkeepers on the database anyway as he demonstrates week in week out that he is a brilliant athlete as well as a shot stopper