Carles Puyol

Carles Puyol

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 10:57

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This is Carles Puyol, a word-class defender and the loyal captain of Barca. One of the most hardworking defenders ever, he gives 100% in all his performances. Gifted with great strengh and amazing speed he can eliminate even the quickest strikers. He is also a potent threat when he gets up in attack and he can also play as an aggressive side back to support the flanks. I know the stats look like the defaults but KONAMI did ok with him and I also expect a discussion here ;)

CLASSIC SET(S): 2005-2006 & 2009-2010

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Original set by Bitz with some tweaks.

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby fillerup » 2008 Dec 11, 15:42

un-updated suggestions:
88 BB
75-76 agression
86 acc or decrease response

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby LipD » 2008 Dec 11, 17:31

I think that the response should stay where it is, but the acceleration could be lowered because he's not that fast but with the high response he'd still be quick enough to defend against great attackers.

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby Markulur » 2008 Dec 11, 20:02

Well, then lowering 2 points ACC seems so sufficient.

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby manutd » 2008 Dec 12, 10:39

Markulur wrote:Well, then lowering 2 points ACC seems so sufficient.

He's too fast

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby Markulur » 2008 Dec 12, 11:49

manutd wrote:
Markulur wrote:Well, then lowering 2 points ACC seems so sufficient.

He's too fast

Well, he's so fast really.

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby scr1899 » 2008 Dec 12, 17:21

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby Fides » 2008 Dec 12, 17:26

His defence should be in the 90s for sure:)

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby manutd » 2008 Dec 13, 06:50

Markulur wrote:
manutd wrote:
Markulur wrote:Well, then lowering 2 points ACC seems so sufficient.

He's too fast

Well, he's so fast really.

For a defender he is

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby Vandeach » 2008 Dec 13, 08:10

Red's stats seem a bit strange espicially the team-work and defence values. Sure his positioning is great well worthy of a 91/92 but 95 is ridiculous.

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby bitz » 2008 Dec 13, 09:25

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Well, we all know that Red's standards are different then ours, so don't be surprised to see 95 in Defence. But to be honest, I like this set of stats in some areas. Maybe we can make a compromise. At the moment people have agreed in 86 Acceleration so the 1st post can be updated.

Now what about increasing his Stamina? Not something drastic, but a 1-2 point boost. This will separate him from Abidal and Senna. And If I remember well we had an ongoing discussion about his Balance in the previous forum. Who agrees with 87 Balance?

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby LaitP » 2008 Dec 13, 09:35

I do agree with
BB: 87
Acc: 86

but for stamina 91 seems fine to me considering his high mentality

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby Ulises » 2008 Dec 13, 10:49

LaitP wrote:I do agree with
BB: 87
Acc: 86

but for stamina 91 seems fine to me considering his high mentality


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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby S-J23 » 2008 Dec 13, 10:58

Fides wrote:His defence should be in the 90s for sure:)


I agree with Naud.. Puyol is the classic type of defender who has well develop physical area but he still has excellent tackling abilities and positional sense.. very much like Nesta..

and Sandro's rated at 95 which is six points above.. I believe this gap is ridiculous.. and surely Nesta shouldn't be lowered..

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby Ulises » 2008 Dec 13, 11:09

IMO his positioning shouldn't be at world class level. He has a god phisical qualities, with good response, but his postioning is not at orange numbers level. You can notice that he is sometimes out of positiong, but he compesates this perfectly with other qualities. And this is more noticeable when he plays for NT (i still remember some big positioning mistakes in the last world cup...) Terry, ferdinand, nesta and even cannavaro are better at positioning. I think his DEF should be keep at 89, but rise his response, he is the best reacting and reading.

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby Xyder » 2008 Dec 13, 11:15

Agree with BB: 87, with Acc: 86 and raise defence to 90s... maybe 91 on pair with Cannavaro, seems more accurate than 89, 'cause he is the best defender of La Liga, his defence needs reveal this.

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby Ulises » 2008 Dec 13, 11:19

Xyder wrote:Agree with BB: 87, with Acc: 86 and raise defence to 90s... maybe 91 on pair with Cannavaro, seems more accurate than 89, 'cause he is the best defender of La Liga, his defence needs reveal this.


Yes he could be the best, i think he is the best, but not thanked to his great positioning... OMG... he shouldn't on par with cannavaro or over terry and ferdinand.... his response is the key!

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby bitz » 2008 Dec 13, 12:27

I wouldn't raise his Defence. What makes Puyol a great defender is his never-say-die and not his positional sense. I think that what needs to be raised is his Teamwork, yes, Puyol is suberb at linking with teammates all over the pitch, and IMO he should be on par or even higher than Paolo Maldini.

So we have already agreed in:
Balance: 87
Acceleration: 86

Please Marc update!

And please keep discussing on this:
Teamwork: 88

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby imi » 2008 Dec 13, 12:57

it seems all of us forgot the match of ManU VS Barca :)
how could we say he deserves 87 for BB while he didnt show any special power on battels against Tevez and Rooney?
no mates he never can be on 87 while Tevez is on 86 and also Ferdinand is 87. :!:

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Re: Carles PUYOL

Postby as_10 » 2008 Dec 13, 13:31

imi wrote:it seems all of us forgot the match of ManU VS Barca :)
how could we say he deserves 87 for BB while he didnt show any special power on battels against Tevez and Rooney?
no mates he never can be on 87 while Tevez is on 86 and also Ferdinand is 87. :!:

ok, he wasnt stronger than tevez IN ONE MATCH, but what about the great strength he has been showing during 10 years in La Liga?

his BB should be 87-88 at least

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