Franco Baresi | 1988-1990

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Franco Baresi | 1988-1990

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 11, 03:06

Nickname: "The Steel Man" "Piscinin"

Club: AC Milan




Growth type: Standard/Lasting

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What more can be said about a man who made defending an absolute joy to watch. Such a reader of the game, brilliant technique, his decision making was absolutely brilliant, he knew when to slow the game down and play it out from the back or when he just needed to hit it into Row Z, you could argue Franco was no nonsense but a defender with flair at the same time, as I've said he based every decision on it's own merits and knew what was best to do in every scenario. Brave as anything as well, would stick his head where most would struggle to put their boot.

Despite the '94 World Cup Final being an absolute dire affair in the attacking third, any fan of the true art of defending would say that Franco's remarkable MOM performance at the ripe old age of 34, snuffing out Romario and every other Brazilian attacker that day was sheer genius.

Also as well as being a brilliant defender he was also fantastic at bringing the ball out from the back and often finished off his own moves he started from defence, with his amazing bursts of acceleration, technique and brilliant positioning at both ends of the field.

Franco Edges it for me over Maldini as the best Defender of all time. I've never seen a defender command a line as well as this guy.


HONOURS:
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European Cup: 1989, 1990, 1994
Intercontinental Cup: 1989, 1990.
European Supercup: 1989, 1990,1994.
Italian Championship:1979, 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996.
Italian Super Cup: 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994.
Mitropa Cup: 1982
FIFA World Cup: 1982

1989: European Silver Ball Footballer of the Year France Football
1990: Italian League The Best Player of the Year.
1989: Best Silver Player World of the Year IFFHS : 1989
2004: Named in FIFA 100
2004: Named Player of Italy of the Century XX by FIGC


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco_baresi

http://www.planetworldcup.com/LEGENDS/baresi.html

http://www.acmilan-online.com/lg_baresi.php

http://francobaresi6.com/en/profile_bio.htm

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988/1989

Postby HFClub » 2009 Oct 16, 15:37

I wonder if his physical stats are not a bit underrated. I refer especially to BB, since the great Franco, while certainly not being a big man, worked a LOT his physique, trained and trained against big forwards (like Weah, in AC Milan's training grounds for example), and is not known that he lost clearly any physical confontation. Of course we may say that was due to his sheer class, positioning and overall defensive skills, but even if we limit our observation to physical "duels", he was a match for almost any forward that played in Serie A or in Europe in his era.
That said, and considering his average Height and Weight, i suggest the raise of his BB value to something around 86-87.

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988/1989

Postby crisfar » 2009 Oct 17, 12:08

I agree, he worked a lot with his body too besides his positioning wrld class skills, and won most of pshysical duels against bigger guys, BB can definitely go up to 87-88, considering his relative small size...

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988/1989

Postby sencesor » 2009 Oct 17, 19:57

Good call there bout BB, the new value (85) is much better than the previous one (83), 87-88 might be too much, but again - considering height/Weight, an 86 is not out of the question. :)

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988/1989

Postby HFClub » 2009 Oct 18, 01:04

crisfar wrote:I agree, he worked a lot with his body too besides his positioning wrld class skills, and won most of pshysical duels against bigger guys, BB can definitely go up to 87-88, considering his relative small size...



That's it, spot on. I didn't want to push it too much, but even ladderwise, it is in my opinion correct.

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1989

Postby zuo » 2010 Jan 28, 19:15

Baresi shot power was by no means average or over average...83/84 values are too high for him.

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby yourigo » 2010 Jun 18, 23:39

i wonder if Baresi deserves 98 for defense, he was a positional genius, but i wouldn't have him over cannavaro, the "wall"

it's a matter of defending style, bobby moore for instance has 95 for defense but 99 for response because of just that, played anticipation more than positioning, in wich for me cannavaro was the best...imo cannavaro should trade defense value with baresi, he'd still be way under baresi in response, mentality and team-work, where baresi was definetily better

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby zguc » 2010 Jul 12, 15:00

What nonsense you talk, Baresi is the notion of game compared to the Cannavaro...

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby yourigo » 2010 Jul 13, 01:11

Baresi was a player, not a god, he doesn't have to be the best at every single thing to still be the best...i just don't think he had better positioning than cannavaro at his finest

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby zguc » 2010 Jul 16, 16:09

Maybe best defender ever, in my opinion the only one who deserve DEF 99

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby Kanouté » 2010 Jul 16, 19:30

in zguc I trust :P

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby Antonio » 2010 Aug 14, 09:00

yes baresi DEFENCE : 99

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby Pumpernikiel » 2010 Aug 14, 11:05

When best forward gets 99 in attack, best defender should get 99 in defence :) .

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby zguc » 2010 Aug 14, 12:11

Pumpernikiel wrote:When best forward gets 99 in attack, best defender should get 99 in defence :) .


Does not have to be so. :P

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby Pumpernikiel » 2010 Aug 15, 22:52

zguc wrote:
Pumpernikiel wrote:When best forward gets 99 in attack, best defender should get 99 in defence :) .


Does not have to be so. :P


I know what you mean, hehe. But i think he really deserves it. He's something like a counterpart of Gerd Muller, but in defence, haha :).

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby yourigo » 2010 Aug 16, 19:58

it's really just a matter of oppinion...personnaly, i believe in that stat alone, defensive positioning, cannavaro was better, even if by as much as one point, be it positioning for a header or blocking a player's path, than baresi

think of it like this, even if cannavaro is slightly better at defending, baresi will be much better at coordinating the team, playing the ball forward, in other words, he will be the better player...the player most people agree was the best defender ever, beckenbauer, certainly wasn't the best at defending, but he was the most complete defender...same happens here, baresi is a more complete player than cannavaro, but not better than him at every single thing

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby zguc » 2010 Aug 16, 20:02

So what do you want to say? That the value of 98 for DEF is too high for Baresi...

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby Matej » 2010 Aug 16, 20:06

No, he was one of the best defenders in history and he absolutely deserves it. Thanks

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby zguc » 2010 Aug 16, 20:31

yourigo wrote:beckenbauer, certainly wasn't the best at defending, but he was the most complete defender...same happens here, baresi is a more complete player than cannavaro, but not better than him at every single thing


Of course more complete, and then more better at defending and organizing game... :P

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Re: Franco BARESI | 1988-1990

Postby yourigo » 2010 Aug 16, 21:55

zguc wrote:
yourigo wrote:beckenbauer, certainly wasn't the best at defending, but he was the most complete defender...same happens here, baresi is a more complete player than cannavaro, but not better than him at every single thing


Of course more complete, and then more better at defending and organizing game... :P

better at defending sure: better reading of the game, better covering, perhaps better tackling too though i can't be sure between the two of them BUT, when it comes to raw positioning i think cannavaro was better, he wasn't called the wall for nothing

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