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Borja Valero

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby ralonso » 2009 Feb 12, 03:48

defence 43: why is so low? i think 60 is ok

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Paddy » 2009 May 24, 02:55

I thought naturally he was more of a CMF?

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby zebastian » 2009 Jun 11, 20:45

I agree in both. Add CM as main position and defence 60 could be right.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby brazilianpesfan » 2009 Aug 31, 23:14

loaned to RCD Mallorca.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby as_10 » 2009 Oct 30, 17:59

Paddy wrote:I thought naturally he was more of a CMF?

So did I, thought he was more a CMF, even a DMF sometimes.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Xyder » 2009 Dec 13, 20:00

Added CMF as main position and updated Defence to 60.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Markulur » 2009 Dec 13, 21:15

I think that he is, with Castro, a player that needs an overall update this season. He is moving the team. Stamina, Response, Mentality, TW... all seems really harsh for his work on Mallorca.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Angel of Death » 2009 Dec 19, 18:54

He is 24 not 25 ;)

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby brazilianpesfan » 2009 Dec 19, 19:16

I think he is more an AMF* than a CMF*.

About Mark's post...I have some values in mind.

STA: 83
Will look tired on 88'-90, just like real life


TW: 83
On pair with Puñal.He is the brain of the team,mainly when he's an AM.


The anothers I don't have a concrete value now :?

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby PMC » 2010 Jan 03, 19:24

I agree that an update seems necessary... his passing is better than that imo

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby BiG TeL » 2010 Apr 01, 11:43

What about an update? It's been necessary for a long time.

About position, it should be CMF, AMF*, SMF (optional) and Side: R

Condition must be 7.

Brazilianpesfan suggestions seem good, but I think we should go further in terms of passing, dribbling, curling, mentality...

PS: His shirt name is "B. VALERO".

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Xyder » 2010 Apr 01, 13:57

Updated with braziliapesfan suggestions, side changed to R, Condition 7 and Consistency raised to 6 (if condition raise is a must, consistency too). I haven't putted SMF as optional 'cause Manzano uses him in those positions depending the match in front of them. So IMO SMF isn't really optional.
About the update, I'm working on him, I see the last match against FC Barcelona and some others like Atlético or Sevilla, in some days I come back with the update ;)

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Agüero » 2010 Apr 02, 13:54

The update should include some raises in his positioning (attack and defense), passes and mentality, he has been Mallorca's best player this season, and Mallorca is in CL places.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Fixer » 2010 May 06, 14:45

Yup I agree with Agüero :)
Btw, great match last night against Madrid, he's surprised me with his ability to read game and play the ball, also great controlling and dribbling. One of his best matches.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby brazilianpesfan » 2010 May 06, 22:02

I'm thinking to download some matches of Mallorca. I'm planning to do an update for him. Someone is interested to help?

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Fixer » 2010 May 07, 05:22

I wish I had time to help, but at May Is hard to find an spot :(

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Fixer » 2010 May 20, 15:11

My final suggestions are these for Borja:

Attack: For sure a raise. His assit and goals reflect It. 75 or 76 for me.
Response: Key part of his game. It helped him on his counterattacks and the fast playing of Mayorca. HUGE Raise (81,82,83 even?) I vote for 83
Passing (Short): 82 accuracy 81 speed. I don't accept rejections :P
Passing (Long): Probably some increase. He prefers the short playing after all. 79/80
Dribble Accuracy: 81 for sure. He's better than that dribbling
Dribble Speed: -1 for me. I think 80 Is enough.
Teamwork: +2 :D Great at organizing and he is on pair with Gago and Toure for sure.

I believe someone will agree with me ;)

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby JuLiTo » 2010 May 21, 11:50

My suggestions on Borja Valero:

Attack: in my opinion the debit to be at least in 76, when it attacks is dangerous.

Balance: bearing in mind his height and his weight for me his correct value would be 77, I it have seen enough this period and it is strong in general in his actions to the shock.

Response: his answer to the free balls and in the actions of reaction it is very good, similar to Granero, 83 in my opinion is a good number for.

DA and DS: his ball control is good, in my opinion it would deserve something like DA: 82 DS: 81

SPA: his short pass is very effective, very few times it gives meaningless passes, his passes most of times are with danger, for my SPA: 82 and SPS: 82 would be a good number for.

LPA: in my opinion his short pass is better that his long pass, but his long pass should be in LPA: 80 and LPS: 81.

Curling: in his passes his big effect is demonstrated, his current value is low, for me 79 - 80 should be between seeing that Granero is with 82.

Aggression: if we look at his attack that is in 76, his value for the aggressiveness should be 79 - 80, the aggressive es but nothing out of the normal thing.

Mentality: for me his current value is something low, 76 would be better for, this period to demonstrated to be more attentive to the game and to take part more and with more regularity.

Team Work: his work in team is very good, he understands himself very well with his partners and combines infinity of moves, in this sense it is one of his strong points, I doubt between 85-86.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Fixer » 2010 May 21, 12:15

Oh, yep. Forgot about It: I agree with Julito on the aggresion thing.

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