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Martín Gómez

Postby PES Stats Database » 2010 Mar 22, 20:47

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby jmg721 » 2010 Mar 22, 23:18

I have a lot of notes on him. I don't think he is really that fast is he? Some of the colors are wrong.

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby Manolo » 2010 Mar 22, 23:44

He is not than fast

Sorry for mi inglish xd

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby jmg721 » 2010 Mar 23, 02:16

Notes:
Martín Gómez #20 in for Piatti - scored 1v1/good att run/165cm/71kg/*CF 20 Gomez - nice RF shot from outside the box showing good ST and decent SP/*CF 20 Gomez - playing RWF?/solid touch/really quick turn/not bad acc/not too inventive on the ball in space, resulted in an ave spass/awesome tracking back in defense/*Side?/poor chest pass/not slow/TS 81+/poor RF cross/really nice RF cross to Gandin's head/looks faster than Mancuello/in 1v1 on wing in counter a quick agile cut inside and a strong LF cross from deep right on the money for an assist/not a ton of curl but a perfectly weighted and placed LP/agi in 80s/pretty short/tracking back pretty far and playing def/good acc/little gritty/not really weak/might be quicker and faster than Busse/RF cut pass cross behind player/solid tracking back to poke ball away/helped again in def/tracked back playing like a RWB/good res in def/failed RF outside 1 touch pass blocked/chased down def and got a foot up to block clear/good def to win ball back/little slow tw on the ball and got dispossesed/very nice 1touch pass to lead busse/poor spass to kill counter/1v1 kinda got owned by Morel/not much of a threat in the air/in counter role on def CK/good at avoiding 1 defender in space with his cut move/1v1 def on wing he was agg in challenge and mouche put the ball through his legs/good attacking run, and his pace distroyed Krupo/on the ball too long got crowded out/Height: 1.65 m/Weight: 71 kg/


Suggestions:
Name: Alberto Martín Gómez Manzanella
Nationality: Argentine
Attack: 75
Defence: 58
Stamina: 84
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 84
Response: 80
Agility: 83
Dribble Speed: 83
Short Pass Speed: 71
Long Pass Acc.: 80
Long Pass Speed: 81
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 74
Free Kick Accuracy: 65
Curling: 76
Header: 69
Jump: 71
Technique: 77
Mentality: 82

Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot frequency: 4
Consistency: 5
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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby fevre_11 » 2010 Mar 23, 18:09

Sorry to disagree, but he is THAT fast.

I thinks that he is the fastest player in Argentinian football. Maybe Noir is as fast as he, but he's now playing in Ecuador.



No one of this players is faster than him:


88: Juan Carlos MENSEGUEZ
87: Ricardo NOIR
86: Leandro TORRES, Clemente RODRÍGUEZ
85: Gabriel HAUCHE, Luciano MONZÓN, Lucas MAREQUE, Gustavo OBERMAN, Iván BELLA, Marcos ANGELERI.

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby Manolo » 2010 Mar 23, 22:15

fevre_11 wrote:Sorry to disagree, but he is THAT fast.

I thinks that he is the fastest player in Argentinian football. Maybe Noir is as fast as he, but he's now playing in Ecuador.



No one of this players is faster than him:


88: Juan Carlos MENSEGUEZ
87: Ricardo NOIR
86: Leandro TORRES, Clemente RODRÍGUEZ
85: Gabriel HAUCHE, Luciano MONZÓN, Lucas MAREQUE, Gustavo OBERMAN, Iván BELLA, Marcos ANGELERI.


JAJA , totally disagree

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby fevre_11 » 2010 Mar 25, 18:57

You obviously didn't see Gomez.

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby Manolo » 2010 Mar 25, 22:30

You obviously do not know stats.

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby jmg721 » 2010 Mar 25, 22:45

Play nice guys ;)

I'm looking for video to confirm either my ideas or fevre's. Any help with video would be great.

Here are a couple from 2 years ago:



I might trust you more if you didn't have 75 Agility :lol:
Things I've noticed from the vids. He might have been a couple faster...but not 90s. Also he makes a lot of quality LF passes. He also made a header goal out jumping someone.

From the video I think...These could possibly be higher(keep in mind video is almost 2 years old):
Attack: 75
Balance: 81
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 84
Agility: 83
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 72
Short Pass Speed: 71
Long Pass Acc.: 80
Free Kick Accuracy: 65
Curling: 76
Header: 69
Jump: 71
Technique: 77
Team Work: 74
WFF: 4
WFA: 5


Could be lower:
Long Pass Speed: 81


But I don't think he is even close to guys like Taison and Nilmar.

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby Manolo » 2010 Mar 26, 14:32

Maybe :

Top Speed : 84
Acceleration : 86
Long Pass Speed : 82 or 83
Jump : 73


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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby jmg721 » 2010 Mar 26, 17:37

Manolo wrote:Maybe :

Top Speed : 84
Acceleration : 86
Long Pass Speed : 82 or 83
Jump : 73

I was suggesting lowering LPS. I'm thinking his LPA should be better.

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby Manolo » 2010 Mar 27, 03:36

Sorry, I understood, I understood that it was very low: P

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2010 Jun 27, 16:32

I think he is too much underrated in speed and acceleration. He's the fastest player in the league.
I suggest Speed: 86, acceleration: 90.

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2010 Oct 20, 22:36

After watching him since he plays in Independiente and a few matches in Independiente Rivadavia de Mendoza, I'm prepared to suggest changes:

Position: *WF, SS, ADD *SMF

Side: R---->B (He plays in the both sides as WF or SMF)

Attack: 76 (+1) His positioning in attack definitely isn't at the worse in the AFA. I put him 1 point up at the level of Mouche and Bordagaray.
Balance: 83 (+2) Taking into account his height and weight 81 is definitely low. He uses his body very well to cover the ball and he's very difficult to pull out.
Acceleration: 87 (+3) As I said in Patito's thread, we are in presence of one of the best in the AFA league, taking into account acceleration. He reaches his TS extremedaly quickly. I proved in my game this value and represents exactly how is he. His ACC is amazing and in my opinion 1 point below Patito.
Dribble Accuracy: 80 (+3) Terrible this value :|. His dribbling is very accurate. He makes a lot of runs with the ball in his foot, passing a lot of opponents and carring the ball near his foot. Definitely at the level of another SS/WF like Neira, Bordagaray or Menseguez.
Header: 73 (+4) SUPER low this value. I don't know why. His heading isn't too bad.
Jump: 75 (+4) Another time :|. Really I don't understand the actual value. He isn't too crap in this aspect, taking into account his weight and height, he needs to jump to try to impact the ball with his head. I put him at the level of Gabriel Méndez and Carrasco.
Aggression: 82 (+2) Definitely one of his best qualities. His level of agressivines is awesome, always going ahead following the opponent field and looking for a goal. Undoubtely this is the correct value in my opinion. 82 as Villalva, Lucero and Menseguez sounds fine.

Weak Foot Accuracy: 7 (+2) What's up here? :shock: He shoots better with his left foot than with his right foot. Nico Martínez in an interview said that Gómez shoots the free kicks and corners or centers better with his left foot and he's in the correct way.
Weak Foot frequency: 7 (+3)

PLAYER INDEX CARDS:
ADD P12-Incisive Run. Definitely a card made for Gómez.

I'm very sure about these changes ;)

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby julgui » 2010 Oct 21, 21:39

Excelent! Suggest! I agree 100%

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby lucardax5d » 2010 Oct 23, 15:53

As julgui, I agree completely, excellent notes vicking ;)

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2010 Oct 23, 17:55

julgui wrote:Excelent! Suggest! I agree 100%


lucardax5d wrote:As julgui, I agree completely, excellent notes vicking ;)


Could I update Manolo? :D

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2010 Oct 25, 12:59

Feel free to update here Victor. :)

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby fevre_11 » 2010 Oct 25, 17:21

I'm updating according to vickingo's suggestions. I didn't make this set. What's the name of the card that improves the performance of the player when he starts the game at the bench? I think Gomez deserves it. All his great performs in INDEPENDIENTE was as a substitute.


I repeat.

None of this players is faster than MARTIN GOMEZ
Specially NOT TORRES, MONZON, MAREQUE, OBERMAN and BELLA


88: Juan Carlos MENSEGUEZ
87: Ricardo NOIR
86: Leandro TORRES, Clemente RODRÍGUEZ
85: Gabriel HAUCHE, Luciano MONZÓN, Lucas MAREQUE, Gustavo OBERMAN, Iván BELLA, Marcos ANGELERI.

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Re: Martín GOMEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2010 Oct 25, 21:09

fevre_11 wrote:I'm updating according to vickingo's suggestions. I didn't make this set. What's the name of the card that improves the performance of the player when he starts the game at the bench? I think Gomez deserves it. All his great performs in INDEPENDIENTE was as a substitute.


Super Sub.

Final Update 25-10-2010:

Position: *WF, SS, SMF
Side: R---->B

Attack: 76 (+1)
Balance: 83 (+2)
Acceleration: 87 (+3)
Dribble Accuracy: 80 (+3)
Header: 73 (+4)
Jump: 75 (+4)
Aggression: 82 (+2)

Weak Foot Accuracy: 7 (+2)
Weak Foot frequency: 7 (+3)

Added:
PLAYER INDEX CARDS:
P12-Incisive Run.
S14 - Quick Turn
S21 - Super-Sub

Thanks Fevre_11

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