Henrique Hilário

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[Tom]

diving is reflected with jump, not agility

I thought jump mean jump ? Not to mention that they are almost the opposite of each other.

Nope, a dive is a type of jump but angled to a specific area. However, what Hilario did in the Manchester City was the opposite of a jump, he just collapsed to the floor like a pile of clothes although I suppose a pile of clothes would have a moderately greater chance of preventing some of the goals that Hilario conceded.

[A-SK]

personally, had i rated him in that match, i would've said defence and jump really need to be green values. his reflexes weren't that good either. must have been random arrow day

[Tom]

personally, had i rated him in that match, i would've said defence and jump really need to be green values. his reflexes weren't that good either. must have been random arrow day

Bar Lampard and perhaps Joe Cole (at a push), I don't think many of the Chelsea side could claim that they had a good game. John Terry was poor and lacked concentration (No surprise there), Mikel could have been better, Drogba and Anelka were ineffective, Ballack was reckless and rather frustrated, Malouda provided little, Ivanovic seemed to enjoy fouling and Carvalho was non-existant.

Still, you won't see me complaining about that

[A-SK]

fair enough

[BigStu]

needs lower def and form

[BigStu]

fuck it updated

[Mr. Evans]

Hilario under Ross in terms of DEF Stu? No way. I'd say he could sit on a 81 tbh. He's decent GK overall imo. Just lacks the needed physical presence for the PL and has a weak leap (I can't help but feel he's shorter than 188 cm btw..). Would say he's a 81 max for BAL while looking at the updates made to the GKs recently, low 70s jump for sure.
And MENT is harsh, should be closer to green. 73/74.

[BigStu]

tbh honest I'm going to look at all the keeper updates again, seb used konami defaults as guidelines, and I haven't

edit updated him with konami defualts for DEF, JUMP and MENT, intrestingly they only give him 81 for KS and 83 for res (turnball gets 77,86,77 and mid 60's ment/tw as well)

[Alexalibur]

He's going out as well. Not surprised both of them are released since they were actually struggling through basic drills during training...