Lionel Messi

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[HitMan]

i agree to TS 87
but not ACC: 97

1 point in god region goes a lot in player performance in pes...

look at the graph http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2352/pes2008stats1fi7.jpg

[Ulises]

i agree to TS 87
but not ACC: 97

1 point in god region goes a lot in player performance in pes...

look at the graph http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2352/pes2008stats1fi7.jpg

97 (+1) is for DS not ACC, and that's is to keep his speed with ball, and to reflect his little amount of speed loosed when runs with the ball.

And here your graph is no a valid argument cause speed with ball came from the following formula: (TS/99) x DS.

Still disagree with DS value?¿

[HitMan]

well yes i do
its still GOD region and 96already is really really high..

[emoboiross94]

I think Attack should be 82/83
The reason for this is because curently 80 for attacking positioning is to low imo for Messi, look at Benayoun, Attack = 81, above Messi atm. Thats why I think 82 minimum tbh.

[sticky-fingers]

well yes i do
its still GOD region and 96already is really really high..

He's the best in dribbling mode ... but only with his left foot
Weak Foot Frequency: 1

[HitMan]

WOW didnt notice WFA:5

suggestion WFA: 4 hes not better than Adriano for sure

[Bret_Hart_67]

well yes i do
its still GOD region and 96already is really really high..

He's the best in dribbling mode ... but only with his left foot
Weak Foot Frequency: 1

Don't forget that with this he will do the famous 'rabona' and I don't think he did that in reality

[HitMan]

with WFA: 4 will he do it?
i know recoba did it in original PES6, it was a beautiful thing to see

[Ulises]

Agree with WFA: 4.

And i think that his ATK should be raised 1 or 2 points.

So suggestions are:

ATK: 81/82 (+1/+2)
TS: 87 (-1) (3 agrees)
DS: 97 (+1) (2 agrees)
WFA: 4 (3 agrees)

[as_10]

if the increase in DS compensates the TS, then i agree, and ATT 82, in par with Rossi and 1 power than VdV

BTW, does anyboy think his passing stats should go up? im not talking about all of them, only SPA and LPS(which looks ridicously low, but i dont know how to rate it properly)

EDIT: oh and i forgot SP, i think it should be 82-83. He can hit it at least like Xavi

[Ulises]

if the increase in DS compensates the TS, then i agree, and ATT 82, in par with Rossi and 1 power than VdV

BTW, does anyboy think his passing stats should go up? im not talking about all of them, only SPA and LPS(which looks ridicously low, but i dont know how to rate it properly)

EDIT: oh and i forgot SP, i think it should be 82-83. He can hit it at least like Xavi

Yes DS will compensate his TS, in his speed WITH the ball do it with the formula: (TS/99) x DS


ATK: 81/82 (+1/+2) (2 agrees)
TS: 87 (-1) (4 agrees)
DS: 97 (+1) (3 agrees)
WFA: 4 (3 agrees)

[Aureliano Buendía]

I agree with TS, DS and WFA, but i still think that he doesn't have a good positioning, he usually recives the ball due to a good run or recives it far from the goal and goes dribbling to it. I don't find him better at positioning than other wingers like Robben or Joaquin. This will put him on par with Simao who I think is slightly better at positioning.

[pes_hhc]

Agree with WFA: 4.

And i think that his ATK should be raised 1 or 2 points.

So suggestions are:

ATK: 81/82 (+1/+2)
TS: 87 (-1) (3 agrees)
DS: 97 (+1) (2 agrees)
WFA: 4 (3 agrees)

I'm agree.attack 82.example sevilla games.he does have a good positioning.82 normal.

plus
agility 99.his main skill must be

[manutd]

ATK: 81/82 (+1/+2) (2 agrees)
TS: 87 (-1) (4 agrees)
DS: 97 (+1) (3 agrees)
WFA: 4 (3 agrees)[/quote]
agree

[HitMan]

I'm agree.attack 82.example sevilla games.he does have a good positioning.82 normal.

plus
agility 99.his main skill must be

already THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED on page 1-2-3 etc

messi is not getting AGI 99 no matter how many of you mega fans call for it

[Ulises]

ATK: 81/82 (+1/+2) (4 agrees)
TS: 87 (-1) (7 agrees)
DS: 97 (+1) (6 agrees)
WFA: 4 (6 agrees)

[HitMan]

ATK: 81/82 (+1/+2) (4 agrees)
TS: 87 (-1) (7 agrees)
DS: 97 (+1) (6 agrees)
WFA: 4 (6 agrees)

updating these stats Markulur??

[Markulur]

Updated.

[Giff]

How many would agree on increase in agilty with +1 point from 97 to 98

Also I still want to point out that Messi probably should have A in onjury tolerance instead of C.

[Ace]

How many would agree on increase in agilty with +1 point from 97 to 98

Also I still want to point out that Messi probably should have A in onjury tolerance instead of C.

injury A is for players that have never injury, like J. Zanetti....was Messi ever injured?