Àngel Rangel

[BigStu]

[Vandeach]

You've really underrated his response here, Angel Rangel is at least average quality when it comes to responding to loose balls and timing his tackles, an 80 would be a more appropriate value. In addition, I'd raise his attack, his intelligence whilst going forward is probably one of, if not the best in the Championship for a right or left back, a 70 really doesn't do him justice. I'd much prefer a 73/74 sort of value, also, I'd raise his acceleration by one point, his bursts forward are really quite deadly and it's what makes him such a threat going forward. Furthermore, why is his dribbling so low? He's not a punt and run player like a 77 suggests, he has a a really quite good level of close control when dribbling and I'm surprised you haven't seen him take players on with feints and tricks alike. He's certainly worthy of an 80 value for DA, if not a point higher. His agility could also come up by two or three, his agility isn't exactly a weak point of his and is really quite nimble.

One part I think you've slightly overrated though is his crossing, his balls into the box are often quite poor and it is certainly a weak point of his. I'd have his LPA on a 74/75, and his LPS on a 77. His technique could come up too, he has a fair amount of flair on the ball, and can take the ball quite elegantly, an 80 would be a fair value there. I'd probably up his aggression a couple and give him P01, he absolutely loves to bomb forward and it's that what has made him such a fan favourite. Moreover, his team work value needs a boost, his link up play is absolutely superb and whilst his passing isn't always effective that isn't because of a poor connection with team mates, he could sit on an 80 sort of value. Finally, why have you given him side, when he often loves to cut inside?

I'd like to know who accepted these stats, because I certainly wouldn't have done.

[Softy]

Edit accordingly Vandeach?

[Vandeach]

Done.

[BigStu]

the problem I have with rating campionship player is I am forever mindfull of the difference in ability between the premeir league and championship and often give championship players lower values than I want to because of this

Oh and side wasn't meant to be there, the player I used as a template had dribbling and side and deleted the wrong one,

[BigStu]

DS, Im starting to doubt the value hes got, could be a touch higher?

[A-SK]

since when has an 80 (response) been an average figure for a fullback

[Paddy]

Precisely my thoughts.

[A-SK]

"average" for a second division fullback is probably something like 78 max.

[Vandeach]

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough, Angel Rangel would at least be at an average level for response at the top level, in the Championship, the reason why he defends reasonably well is not due to his positional ability, but the fact that he times his standing and sliding tackles well, he can read the game fairly well and can time his runs fairly adeptly. I think there are quite a few SB's underrated in this area to be honest, and whilst it's not usually an integral part of their game, I do see it slightly unfair that there isn't a SB above an 86 for response in our database.

[brazilianpesfan]

Will be very cool if some Spanish team buy him. Looks to be a very good player.

With which Spanish League sideback his style of playing looks?Just to know...

[BigStu]

looks close to a move to blackpool

[BigStu]

really has stepped up his game this season defensively so given a minor update

[BigStu]

Not trying to be rude here but defence 70, what the fuck?

[Paddy]

He's probably the best right back in the division.

[BigStu]

That's a big statement to make, and he's no where near worthy of 70 in def, 67 max

[the sloth]

Watched the game against West Ham today and have a few comments.

He is not worthy of a 70 DEF. I actually found him weak defensively versus Jarvis.

I question the TS and ACC values. Doesn't seem this fast at all though the game itself was played at a fairly slow pace.

Didn't quite see this level of dribbling and TEC from him. Seemed solid but nothing worthy of yellows.

Got forward plenty with overlapping runs and scored a goal with a crappy shot due to getting into the box on the end of some nice link up play with Dyer. Could probably use higher TW along with Marauding or Darting Run.

[BigStu]

same point with as with taylor on speed

not really sure on tech I've always seen him as a very cultured sb, but hmm maybe he's not better than bertrand

[the sloth]

Some notes on the game against Everton.

He showed a bit more TS in this game but still don't find it to be a 85, 82-3 range for me.

As for ACC, definitely don't think he is 84 quick over short distances. This allows him to burst around all the time in PES which I haven't seen him do in real life. Not sure where to put him at this point but my inital thoughts are 78 or so. Maybe I'm wrong but just don't notice him to be that quick off the mark.

About DA and DS. Can't say that I have noticed him having this tight of control of the ball, not sure what to give him but I haven't noticed it to be a particular strength. Any thoughts?

[Korinov]

From what I've seen, DA-wise he's pretty decent and clearly better than Taylor, but don't think a yellow value is needed to replicate his style. Has good close control, which combined with decent AGI makes him an efficient dribbler, but not great. I'd say greens. Taylor should be on whites BTW.