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Borja Valero

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 10, 08:19

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The 'Why'

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Having an spot in your all life team ain't easy nowadays. Unless you have a coach that trusts the youth team (or at least the youth) you have not guaranteed success. Some players are worth IT, many of them could even be on the starting eleven being a key piece of some of the best teams in European football, but football has became anything but sports anymore, envolving mainly money and political intentions under the roof of an Sport. In some cases, those players are lost forever, never to be seen by the average sport fan. But there are also miracles. How could young Borja call the attention of RCD Mallorca when he wasn't even shining at england? That season, along with other footballers that soon left the Balears, was one of the best in the last years by an Spanish footballer out of the big two or that huge Valencia. Borja Valero was It who shown the team the way. A bunch of full of illusion footballers that faced everything leaded by this young midfielder. Even tough their campagin was impressive, that season we could not see them in Europe due to their economic problems. After such a succesful season he called up some teams like Barça, Sevilla and Villarreal's attention ,finally joining the Yellow Submarine.

Here's where he developed into one of the best footballers In our country and our league. Borja changed his position from CMF to AMF to serve as a more offensive midfielder, using his ability to deliver killing passes but without sacrificing his fantastic work at the middle of the field. Gifted with a vision of the game only possible for some to imagine, Borja Is the machine that along with Bruno creates the football of this fantastic team called Villarreal. Borja Is the link up between the defense and the attack, he's the first to track back, recover the ball, take It out controlled and begin the construction.

The main changes on this new set are physical and technical. Overall an improvement and tweaking of the first post after some watching on him together with own playing experience. Here we go

Balance: 75 ->Even had my doubts about a green value. Borja Valero Is a player that does not have any physical strenght. He's really prone and you'll easily see him fall down when oponents press on him. Sometimes It's due to the fact that he's tried to be well covered, but he's actually like a leaf. It's possibly one of the reasons he went up foward on the field, to leave the muscle to other players, but still Borja Is a player that covers a lot of field. Will talk about that next

Stamina: 85 --> Like I said Borja might have advanced on the field, but he covers a lot of field. You'll see him on both boxes often. His defensive work Is not to be destimated and he's easily one of the players you'll see still running at the end of the match. Still he's not a machine and he also gets tired. Also increased his mentality by one point.

Top Speed / Acceleration: 84/81 / DS: 82--> Now this might seem strange. I've got the feeling that Borja Is a really fast player, but he does not usually show It. Borja's runs are short, he does some acceleration and then calms down. His dribbles are usually like that with spaces, so we rarely get to see him at the top of his speed. But there are some cases when you see how fast he Is. And also with the ball. He's not slow neither. Borja Is the first one to command the counter attack, being both ellegant but also covering terrain fast until he finds the spot.

DA: 84 --> Well I just found 83 pretty average. He's a good dribbler. Not a trickster or anything, but his control Is pretty decent. You can see him get rid of the oponents by a simple yet effective dribble and he's pretty nice at It.

Agility: 85 --> That's when I had my doubts about his body balance, when I saw his agility. Sometimes you'll see him using his body pretty well, surprisingly solid for what you get used to see when watching him for a while. And then a twist, a sudden twist he does and he gets rid of the defender like before you can say 'Dribble'. I'm not talking about the situation I mentioned when rating his DA, but when he's more at the construction. What I meant to say In the upper stat Is at the attacking duties, specially when you see him fall to the right wing or play as SMF and look for the cross. This is pretty Xavi-esque, but Borja Is not at all a Tactical Dribbler with all the words. Found It suitable, imo. But, as I said, I found this as one of the hardest things to rate.

Short passing / Long passing: 86/85 - 85/83 --> No here Is where I had some deep confusion within myself. I ended up realizing the thing Is pretty much all matches like this. Borja Is one of those midfielders that behaves a bit like Xabi Alonso, with long - and often- precise passes from the middle and with deadly killer passes when up in the box. He's one great passer on both, but realized that on short he's even more dangeours, leaving the long passing mainly for the Pinpointing when taking out the ball controlled or when changing the ball to the other wing. Sometimes you'll see Borja playing as SMF and see how easily he delivers the pass to Cazorla on the left too.

Shooting: 74/79/77 --> Weak. He Isn't a shooter. He takes a bit sometimes to aim the shoot and not always succesful. His main problem I guess Is that his shoots are usually really weak and bad directed. But he Isn't a bad volleyer as he has shown more than once. About his shooting under pressure we got little data, as you'll see him falling to the ground before even having the minimal chance. Still he's got a deadly curling that allows him to do some nice shoots. I link you here an example that shocked me when I watched the match back then:



Teamwork: 90 --> Now this Is without any doubt Borja Valero's best asset. He might be more or less precise on his passes but his intention and his ability to read the spot, to know where his mates are, to build up together some amazing things up near and in the box, to know when there's a pass or when he should just send the ball back to start again. Borja Is impressive. His vision of the game Is almost at the level of the best, there's just not anyone In La Liga besides the Blaugrana wonders and Xabi Alonso that can get close to him in terms of teamwork.

Here I bring you some videos I used for the last tweaks. Enjoy!


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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby ralonso » 2009 Feb 12, 03:48

defence 43: why is so low? i think 60 is ok

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Paddy » 2009 May 24, 02:55

I thought naturally he was more of a CMF?

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby zebastian » 2009 Jun 11, 20:45

I agree in both. Add CM as main position and defence 60 could be right.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby brazilianpesfan » 2009 Aug 31, 23:14

loaned to RCD Mallorca.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby as_10 » 2009 Oct 30, 17:59

Paddy wrote:I thought naturally he was more of a CMF?

So did I, thought he was more a CMF, even a DMF sometimes.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Xyder » 2009 Dec 13, 20:00

Added CMF as main position and updated Defence to 60.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Markulur » 2009 Dec 13, 21:15

I think that he is, with Castro, a player that needs an overall update this season. He is moving the team. Stamina, Response, Mentality, TW... all seems really harsh for his work on Mallorca.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Angel of Death » 2009 Dec 19, 18:54

He is 24 not 25 ;)

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby brazilianpesfan » 2009 Dec 19, 19:16

I think he is more an AMF* than a CMF*.

About Mark's post...I have some values in mind.

STA: 83
Will look tired on 88'-90, just like real life


TW: 83
On pair with Puñal.He is the brain of the team,mainly when he's an AM.


The anothers I don't have a concrete value now :?

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby PMC » 2010 Jan 03, 19:24

I agree that an update seems necessary... his passing is better than that imo

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby BiG TeL » 2010 Apr 01, 11:43

What about an update? It's been necessary for a long time.

About position, it should be CMF, AMF*, SMF (optional) and Side: R

Condition must be 7.

Brazilianpesfan suggestions seem good, but I think we should go further in terms of passing, dribbling, curling, mentality...

PS: His shirt name is "B. VALERO".

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Xyder » 2010 Apr 01, 13:57

Updated with braziliapesfan suggestions, side changed to R, Condition 7 and Consistency raised to 6 (if condition raise is a must, consistency too). I haven't putted SMF as optional 'cause Manzano uses him in those positions depending the match in front of them. So IMO SMF isn't really optional.
About the update, I'm working on him, I see the last match against FC Barcelona and some others like Atlético or Sevilla, in some days I come back with the update ;)

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Agüero » 2010 Apr 02, 13:54

The update should include some raises in his positioning (attack and defense), passes and mentality, he has been Mallorca's best player this season, and Mallorca is in CL places.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Fixer » 2010 May 06, 14:45

Yup I agree with Agüero :)
Btw, great match last night against Madrid, he's surprised me with his ability to read game and play the ball, also great controlling and dribbling. One of his best matches.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby brazilianpesfan » 2010 May 06, 22:02

I'm thinking to download some matches of Mallorca. I'm planning to do an update for him. Someone is interested to help?

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Fixer » 2010 May 07, 05:22

I wish I had time to help, but at May Is hard to find an spot :(

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Fixer » 2010 May 20, 15:11

My final suggestions are these for Borja:

Attack: For sure a raise. His assit and goals reflect It. 75 or 76 for me.
Response: Key part of his game. It helped him on his counterattacks and the fast playing of Mayorca. HUGE Raise (81,82,83 even?) I vote for 83
Passing (Short): 82 accuracy 81 speed. I don't accept rejections :P
Passing (Long): Probably some increase. He prefers the short playing after all. 79/80
Dribble Accuracy: 81 for sure. He's better than that dribbling
Dribble Speed: -1 for me. I think 80 Is enough.
Teamwork: +2 :D Great at organizing and he is on pair with Gago and Toure for sure.

I believe someone will agree with me ;)

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby JuLiTo » 2010 May 21, 11:50

My suggestions on Borja Valero:

Attack: in my opinion the debit to be at least in 76, when it attacks is dangerous.

Balance: bearing in mind his height and his weight for me his correct value would be 77, I it have seen enough this period and it is strong in general in his actions to the shock.

Response: his answer to the free balls and in the actions of reaction it is very good, similar to Granero, 83 in my opinion is a good number for.

DA and DS: his ball control is good, in my opinion it would deserve something like DA: 82 DS: 81

SPA: his short pass is very effective, very few times it gives meaningless passes, his passes most of times are with danger, for my SPA: 82 and SPS: 82 would be a good number for.

LPA: in my opinion his short pass is better that his long pass, but his long pass should be in LPA: 80 and LPS: 81.

Curling: in his passes his big effect is demonstrated, his current value is low, for me 79 - 80 should be between seeing that Granero is with 82.

Aggression: if we look at his attack that is in 76, his value for the aggressiveness should be 79 - 80, the aggressive es but nothing out of the normal thing.

Mentality: for me his current value is something low, 76 would be better for, this period to demonstrated to be more attentive to the game and to take part more and with more regularity.

Team Work: his work in team is very good, he understands himself very well with his partners and combines infinity of moves, in this sense it is one of his strong points, I doubt between 85-86.

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Re: Borja VALERO

Postby Fixer » 2010 May 21, 12:15

Oh, yep. Forgot about It: I agree with Julito on the aggresion thing.

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