Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

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Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby PES Stats Database » 2011 Jul 25, 21:53

Primera B Metropolitana
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Acassuso
Hernan Ortiz

Almirante Brown
Gastón Rossi
Walter Zunino
Iván Centurión
Román Díaz

Atlanta
Fabricio Pedrozo
Sebastián Sciorilli
Pablo Santillo

Barracas Central
Roberto Floris
Abel Soriano

Brown de Adrogué
Diego Ceballos
Zelmar García
Víctor Soto
Joel Barbosa

Chacarita
Emanuel Morales
Leandro Coronel
Cesar Taborda
Damian Manso
Victor Zapata

Comunicaciones (BsAs)
Javier Vatter

Deportivo Español (BsAs)
Jeremías Caggiano

Deportivo Moron
Damián Toledo
Sebastian Peratta
Guillermo Suarez
Rodrigo Lemos
Emanuel Pío

Estudiantes de Caseros
Juan Martin
Leandro Martinez Montagnoli
Diego Galván

Los Andes
Andrés Soriano
Diego Cisterna
Fernando Lorefice

Platense
Cristian Tavio
Gonzalo Garcia
Daniel Vega
Javier Carrasco

Sportivo Italiano
Nahuel Oviedo
Cristian Alexis Gutiérrez

Tristán Suarez
Darío Capogrosso
Martin Gimenez
Gastón Bottino
Alejandro Quintana
Darío Cajaravilla
Cristian Trombetta
Gastón Losa
Facundo Diz
Elvio Fredrich
Marcos Brítez Ojeda
Hernan Boyero

Villa Dálmine
Ruben Zamponi

Villa San Carlos
Pablo Miranda
Gasón Sessa
Nahuel Fernándes Silva
Cristian Piarrou



Primera C
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Central Córdoba (Rosario)
Cristian Vella

Defensores de Belgrano
Luciano Goux



Torneo Federal A / Torneo Argentino A
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Atletico Parana
Mariano Echagüe
Ignacio Arce

Central Córdoba (SdE)
Pablo Bastianini

Central Norte (Salta)
Leonardo Villán

Chaco For Ever
José Manuel Babak
Oscar Gomez
Aldo Visconti

Deportivo Maipú
Sergio Daniel Sanchez
Alejandro Delorte

Deportivo Madryn
Gabriel Bustos

Estudiantes (San Luis)
Cristian Núñez
Gastón Stang

Juventud Antoniana
Franco Sosa
Marcos Litre
Gustavo Balvorín
Gustavo Ibáñez

Juventud Unida Universitario
Emanuel Urresti
Judelín Aveska

Mitre (SdE)
Jesus Nievas
Iván Juárez
César Montiglio

San Jorge (T)
Facundo Nasif
Alejandro Toledo

San Martin (T)
Facundo Silva
Miguel Fernández
Fabricio Lenci
Alejando Rébola

Sportivo Patria
Gabriel Pérez Tarifa
Walter Ferrero

Talleres (Cba)
Danilo Lerda
Julio Mozzo
Lautaro Fórmica
Lucas Bovaglio
Diego Martínez
Elías Bazzi

Tiro Federal (R)
Marcelo Mosset
Mauro Dobler
Sergio Sena

Unión (MdP)
Nicolás Ramirez



Torneo Argentino B / Torneo Federal B
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Belgrano (Paraná)
Germán Cáceres



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Matías Urbano
Emanuel Urresti Torneo Federal A
Judelín Aveska Torneo Federal A
Mariano Echagüe Torneo Federal A
Cristian Vella Primera C
Leonardo Villán Torneo Federal B
Sebastián Sciorilli Primera B Metro
Gastón Rossi Primera B Metro
José Manuel Babak Torneo Federal A
Cristian Trombetta Primera B Metro
Gastón Losa Primera B Metro
Rodrigo Lemos Primera B Metro
Leandro Martinez Montagnoli Primera B Metro
Oscar Gomez Torneo Federal A
Diego Cisterna Primera B Metro
Mauro Dobler Torneo Federal A
Marcos Litre Torneo Federal A
Walter Ferrero Torneo Federal A
Leandro Coronel Primera B Metro
Nahuel Oviedo Primera B Metro
Cristian Alexis Gutiérrez Primera B Metro
Facundo Silva Torneo Federal A
Jeremías Caggiano Primera B Metro
Sergio Daniel Sanchez Torneo Federal A
Luciano Goux Primera C
Miguel Fernández Torneo Federal A


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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Jan 05, 16:20

I'm making a general overhaul of key stats of stamina in lower divisions. Obviously all of players that I could watch last season and comparing with other leagues/1st division/2nd division players. I'm not saying that I'm updating in each thread to not spam it. All of it are with total logic and taking into account lastest version of PES about those ratings and lasts PES discussions here and how stamina performs in players. Lots of players of 3rd division are terrible overrated, so step by step I'm trying to find the balance between AFA leagues. I was testing 3rd division players in PES 2012 and it's completely unrealistic compared with other far better teams.

You can follow changes here, and if are doubts/suggestions, just tell me.
http://pesstatsdatabase.com/PSD/UpdatesChampionship.php?Championship=40

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Apr 20, 16:29

Here I made a list of those players that must be deleted from this section which is full of garbage and non important players, not needed and it bother tbh. Also we can't keep an eye on these divisions, nobody cares about it and nobody will put them in their OF. So I've kept just those players with posibility to play in a better division or key/important/legend player who must be here as case Ortega or Bazan Vera. Please delete all that shit to have less players and focus in A/B Nacional players. It doesn't matter if a player of here in the future is contrated by one of A/B as these sets are trustable and in other way we'll have to work again in him.

Keepers: Delete all.
Defenders:
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Iván MACALIK, Temperley
Matías VILLAVICENCIO, Central Norte
Roberto TUCKER, Sarmiento (is twice in database)
Walter RIBONETTO, Talleres
Carlos MADEO, Barracas Central
Ricardo MOREIRA, Tiro Federal
Samuel CÁCERES ARZA, Nueva Chicago

Midfielders:
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Andrés SAN MARTÍN, Sportivo Italiano
Ezequiel LÁZARO, Alumni
Fabio PIETERS, Sarmiento de Junín
Facundo AGUSTINOY
Federico IÑIGUEZ, Acassuso
Germán SCAMPORRINO, Estudiantes BA
Gustavo BRITOS, Sportivo Italiano
Gustavo SEVER, Acassuso
Ignacio ORONÁ, Villa San Carlos
Iván NADAL, Defensores de Belgrano
José Luis GÓMEZ, Los Andes
Marcelo VIEYTES, Deportivo Morón
Martín ANDRIZZI, Sarmiento
Sebastián Alberto BATTAGLIA, Platense
Lionel COUDANNES, Central Córdoba SdE
Martín FABRO, Brown de Adrogué
Juan Pablo FRANCIA, Sportivo Belgrano
Matías GARCÍA, Santamarina (T)
Sebastián MAYORGA, Acassuso
Ariel ORTEGA, Defensores de Belgrano

Forwards:
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Adrián DE LEÓN, Unión MdP
Alexis BLANCO, Platense
Damián AKERMAN, Deportivo Morón
Daniel BAZÁN VERA, Tristán Suárez
Daniel GIMÉNEZ, Racing de Córdoba
Gonzalo ABÁN, Racing Olavarría
Gustavo BALVORÍN, San Martín Tucumán
Gustavo IBÁÑEZ, San Martín Tucumán
Héctor ÁLVAREZ, Juventud Antoniana
Jonathan TRIDENTE, Los Andes
Juan Manuel ARÓSTEGUI, Sportivo Belgrano
Leandro ARMANI, Tiro Federal
Leandro BENEGAS, Deportivo Armenio
Leandro GURRIERI, Atlético Policial
Luciano CIPRIANI, San Telmo
Luciano LO BIANCO, Sarmiento
Mariano CAMPODÓNICO, Temperley
Mauro CONOCCHIARI, Deportivo Morón
Maximiliano CASTANO, Los Andes
Ramón ÁBILA, Sarmiento
Rubén Darío FERRER, Nueva Chicago
Sebastián COBELLI, Acasuso
Sergio MARCLAY, Temperley
Héctor CUEVAS, Sarmiento de Junín
Maximiliano GIUSTI, Almagro
Gastón CASAS, Defensores de Belgrano
Wilson SEVERINO, Atlas
Gonzalo LUDUEÑA, Defensores de Belgrano
Antonio ROJANO, Villa San Carlos
Hernán SALAZAR, Social Español


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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby gotaa » 2012 Apr 20, 17:18

I guess that's the list of the players who DON'T have to be deleted, uh? Yeah, I had started doing the same job as Nrby asked me, but never could end doing it, as it took much time to corroborate if "X" player was still in "Y" club and so on. Anyways, we'll be waiting until the end of the season to see which teams promote (I have Nrby's agreement there) and then the other players will be deleted. Even some of the players in your list should be deleted (such as Cobelli or Ribonetto -who has already retired, but I didn't move to that section because... who the hell would use it anyways?), the only ones which will be kept are those who are more or less young and (as you also say) have chances of getting to a Nacional B/Primera Division team.

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Apr 20, 17:45

gotaa wrote:I guess that's the list of the players who DON'T have to be deleted, uh? Yeah, I had started doing the same job as Nrby asked me, but never could end doing it, as it took much time to corroborate if "X" player was still in "Y" club and so on. Anyways, we'll be waiting until the end of the season to see which teams promote (I have Nrby's agreement there) and then the other players will be deleted. Even some of the players in your list should be deleted (such as Cobelli or Ribonetto -who has already retired, but I didn't move to that section because... who the hell would use it anyways?), the only ones which will be kept are those who are more or less young and (as you also say) have chances of getting to a Nacional B/Primera Division team.


Yeah I meant to say "mustn't", I'm sorry. Agree on that, btw dunno if it's needed to wait for relegation, we should work in all of those players anyway as their sets are mostly crap. I'd rather delete all except these one (didn't know about Ribonetto) and start from zero to don't be guided by those sets.

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Jun 16, 23:27

As I can't bump this I'd like to know if it's possible to be done Matias...It's pretty necessary and as most of those leagues done...it's time.

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby gotaa » 2012 Jun 26, 14:55

Yes, I have to collect the IDs of the players that will be deleted and then I'll send to Nrby.


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So, from now on, I'll start deleting the topics that won't remain either in the forum or in the database. I've already told Nrby, so don't get surprised lol.

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Aug 06, 16:42

What about do another massive delete of useless topics in Lower division Matias now that we know all relegated and promoted teams?

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby gotaa » 2012 Aug 06, 19:39

Yes, I was waiting for the transfers period to end, but I don't think there'll be major movements this week. The list of players that -imo- must stay is:

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Nicolás TAUBER, Chacarita
Matías PISANO, Chacarita
Ángel PIZ, Chacarita
Matías NIZZO, Chacarita
Daniel PEREIRA, Chacarita
Rodrigo ESPÍNDOLA, Chacarita
Ramón LENTINI, Chacarita
Sergio SAGARZAZÚ, Chacarita
Emanuel MORALES, Chaca
Cristian GUANCA, Chacarita
Federico BARRIONUEVO, Chacarita
Matías ZALDIVIA, Chacarita
Rodrigo LEMOS, Chacarita
Pablo MONSALVO, Chacarita
Sebastián PENA, Chacarita
Daniel GOJMERAC, Chacarita
Gabriel TELLAS, Chacarita

Matías VALDEZ, Atlanta
Lucas MANCINELLI, Atlanta
Andrés SORIANO, Atlanta

Aldo VISCONTI, Los Andes
Brian NIEVA, Los Andes

Federico CRIVELLI, Temperley
Gastón AGUIRRE, Temperley

Cristian TAVIO, Estudiantes de Caseros
Abel SORIANO, Estudiantes de Caseros

Ricardo MOREIRA, Tiro Federal
Leandro ARMANI, Tiro Federal

Rodrigo PEPE, Platense
Facundo MELIVILLO, Platense

Gustavo IBÁÑEZ, San Martín Tucumán
Alejandro RÉBOLA, San Martín de Tucumán
Gustavo BALVORÍN, San Martín Tucumán
Lucas BUSTOS, San Martín de Tucumán

Diego CHITZOFF, Talleres
Jesús NIEVAS, Talleres
Gastón BOTTINO, Talleres
Gonzalo KLUSENER, Talleres

Jorge TORRES, Tristán Suárez
Daniel BAZÁN VERA, Tristán Suárez

Martín CABRERA, Deportivo Morón
Andrés NUÑEZ, Deportivo Morón
Ramón ÁBILA, Deportivo Morón

Gonzalo PARISI, Brown (PM)
Ricardo CHAVARRI, Brown (PM)

Gabriel PEREYRA, Defensores de Belgrano
Juan Pablo FRANCIA, Sportivo Belgrano
ROBERVAL, Desamparados
Gonzalo ABÁN, Racing Olavarría
Mauro VILLEGAS, CAI
Catriel ORCELLET, Gimnasia CDU
Franco DOLCI ---> ?


The following ones are players that have more or less accurate sets but I don't know where the hell they've gone. Probably could go to Non Affiliated
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Emanuel CENTURIÓN
Maximiliano GIUSTI ---> shoulda return to Velez but dunno where he really is.
Adrián DE LEÓN
Guido MILÁN
Leonardo BORZANI
Nicolás RAMÍREZ
Walter CUEVAS
Erick APARICIO
Gastón STANG


I have doubts on these ones, either because: 1) they're old players; 2) they're mainly not useful or don't have big chances of getting to a superior league; or 3) I don't completely trust their sets. I'd delete 'em all too, if it were by me.
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Diego BIELKIEWICZ
Gastón CASAS, Defensores de Belgrano
Juan Manuel ARÓSTEGUI, Sportivo Belgrano
Leonardo RODA, Defensores de Belgrano
Mariano CAMPODÓNICO, Temperley
Antonio ROJANO, Villa San Carlos
Alexis BLANCO, Platense
Ariel ORTEGA, Defensores de Belgrano
Leandro GURRIERI, Atlético Policial
Sebastián Alberto BATTAGLIA, Platense
Martín FABRO, Brown de Adrogué
Santiago SOTO, Alvarado
Alejandro FRIEDRICH
Fernando FONTANA
Mauricio ALMADA, Tristán Suárez
Carlos ARCE
Brian RESCH, Sportivo Belgrano
Cristian GUTIÉRREZ
Facundo TALÍN, Platense


The rest of the players should be gone. Take a look to these lists, leave any suggestion in case you have and we'll see later.

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Aug 06, 23:08

Totally agree, are mostly unnecessary. I wouldn't delete Chaca's stats as it's probably they will be promoted the next year and by sentimental :cry: But if you need an agreement for the whole rest, i'm there. Good job doing that.

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby gotaa » 2012 Aug 07, 02:08

No, I hope and believe the same will happen, Chacarita players will remain. I'll add to this list some nacional B players (Dellaguila, Mariano Viola, Pedro Irala, Merlo's free agents) and some of 1st division I had already told you (GOLD BETIG, ALARCON, SACHETTO, GALIANA), no problems with that right? I'll send it to Norbert as soon as possible

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Aug 07, 02:20

Yeah I forgot those players, go ahead...it's for the best and to work with less players. Currently is a chaos. Btw thanks for the hardwork analysing players, it'd take a long while.

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Aug 08, 21:13

Well...deleted tones of useless topics after Nrby deleted their ID's. Problem is: there are 66 players in the editor and there are 69 in Lower Divisions here. I entered thousands of times in each thread, probably after that madness of deletion of topics I could get a bit distracted and didn't realize when a topic hasn't stats, but I doubt it. Matias, could you take a look by yourself then?

Also I've noticed there are one or two players with stats in editor but without topic (I've already told you by Facebook). It was a good start and i'm happy now we haven't useless topics. Despite doing all this, still -and watching closer- there are useless players in the forum of Lower Divisions.

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby gotaa » 2012 Aug 09, 00:56

There are cases such as Gustavo Britos, in which I overwrote them in the editor to make another player, and probably after didn't delete the topic in the forum. And we will have always one more topic in here than players in the editor, because of this thread. It's probably that. I'll check anyways. Thanks for taking the work of deleting all these players :D

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby mauro_rojo » 2012 Sep 06, 06:37

Que lástima que hayan borrado todo, a los que usamos las ligas de ascenso eran de gran utilidad esos stats.

MOD EDIT: It wasn't our decision but we agreed on them. It isn't trustable a whole database of players we barely watch.
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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby pelimetal » 2013 Nov 24, 01:18

Well, I post it here, players from Primera C and Torneo Argentino A and B:
Nicolas Trecco player of Sacachispas-Primera C. http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=27087
It doesn´t have source but I saw him playing like a month ago.

Cesar Monasterio to Deportivo Laferrere-Primera C. http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=21317
Source: http://www.mundoascenso.com.ar/archivo-de-noticias-view/16455/0

Federico Chiocarello to Club Sarmiento de Leones,Cordoba-Torneo Argentino B. http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=21983
Source: http://www.sarmientodeleones.com.ar/nivel2.php?id_noticia=3392

César Alberto Gonzalez to Gimnasia y Tiro de Salta-Torneo Argentino A. http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=21551
Source: http://www.elgigantedesalta.com.ar/plantel.asp?division=1ra

Lucas Ojeda to Gimnasia y Esgrima de Concepcion del Uruguay-Torneo Argentino A. http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=27111
Source: http://www.gimnasiacedelu.com.ar/index.php/argentino-a/plantel

Julio Marchant to Mitre de Santiago del Estero-Torneo Argentino B. http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=21269
Source: http://www.mundomitre.com.ar/plantel.html

Cristian Zurita to Central Norte-Torneo Argentino A. http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=23878
Source: http://www.centralnorteweb.com.ar/plantel.html

Pablo Jerez to CSyD Camioneros-Torneo Argentino B. http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=16987
Source: http://www.atleticocamioneros.com.ar/ladeportiva/index.php/plantel-futbol-profesional/

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby distinguidosrx » 2014 May 29, 02:34

Gonzalo ABÁN??? its a San Luis player...of the B division of Chile...

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby Paablito » 2014 Jul 12, 23:32

i'm doing a total renovation on the 1st post, to keep on eye the actual players and with the renovation of the new tournament would be good for a future-massive move of players.

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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby lucashag » 2014 Jul 26, 03:08

just two things.
1. cristian vella is going to play in central cordoba de rosario (primera C) while bastianini in C.C de santiago del estero, so they play in two different teams.
2. estudiantes de san luis plays in the federal A (former argentino A)

Jó without ronaldinho is as useless as larry flint's legs.
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Re: Argentinean Lower Leagues - List of all the players

Postby Vickingo » 2014 Aug 14, 12:52

I've already moved all players to B Nacional teams.

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