Franck Ribéry

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Franck Ribéry

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 12:52

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describe in my explanations Ribery compared to Robben. They are different types of players but the fact that they both play for FC Bayern and act as a wing tongs, it is in my opinion, the best comparative.

Ribery has probably lost by his injuries, some match practice. he moves at the play without the ball in the offensive not as intelligent as Robben last. Robben takes better routes, uses more space.
Ribery comes from the depths, but prefers to drive the ball. While Robben uses like more the free space and the ball gets into the deep.to use his speed.

That´s an important point, bot hof them are fast as hell. But Robben is a bit faste ron the first steps, also we`ve to consider that Ribery iss maller than Robben. But in the last season it seems that Robben, live by his speed, he has passed away at the defenders with quickness. has used in 80% of his dribbling. Ribery is in a little less speed and just an outstanding ball control that enables him in a confined space, let stand two or three defenders.
ribery has the ball very closely at the foot, as only a few. He is very agile and uses his body smart and useful, furthermore, he uses these skills often enough to pass through two defenders through, in the middle.
both are in love with the ball, the difference is that Arjen like direct takes the way tot he goal, while ribery playful, happy to deliver the show, just to play around yet one more defender. he is aware of its capabilities and strengthen the dribbling and uses them. turns his body into the opponent. indicates presence, using his agility to switch direction. with the close ball control and his speed, it is difficult to comprehend.

behave in front of the goal

In the shooting accuracy not to do Arjen and Ribery a lot. both are very closely for midfield players in conclusion. The difference is how they take the balls and Robben last much more than the conclusion sought Ribery.

Robben takes balls of all situations. he goes from the outside to the center and is looking to conclude with the left. No matter how many defenders there are, or how the angle or distance.

Ribery is different. If he seeks the end, he runs with either a lot of speed in the box, using the back-pass from Müller or Olic and shoots straight, with plenty of power. His shot power is a key point why he is in a position to take happy to balls from the middle distance, they come with a lot of power and a lot of spin on the goal, turn dangerous at a long distance and do not lose speed, which makes it difficult for the goalkeeper to estimate the ball. Last season it was against Hamburger SV this situation, where Ribery took a few steps with the ball and then just once shot - the ball had a lot of speed and a lot of spin, and was unsustainable.

Passing game

Ribery is not a playmaker, he is not like Misimovic, the balls about 20 meters right through the alley, they play to get to the point. yet he is playing ball in the crucial position. the game has changed from fc bayern gaal under van. many balls go over bommel van, to play on the outside to take advantage of quickness, but it is still the case that ribery in the middle and then pulls the ball durchsteckt, likes to müller or olic, short ball through the alley plays.

otherwise it behaves itself in long balls. I would call ribery not as a crossinggod but his long balls from the side are outstanding in the middle. He proved it on the first matchday against Wolfsburg, as he crossed in injury time a long ball with great speed and much curl exactly to the second posts to Schweinsteiger.

corners are a decisive point. van gaal let corners shoot from the left by a right foot. the alternative is Schweinsteiger, the balls with less accuracy and curl but much speed, brings in the middle, thus strong in the air to the strength of the defenders inside can be used. ribery behaves in the different, the balls come with a high speed, but you can see that he places more value on accuracy. The balls come with a lot curl, on teh first post or accuarte on the penalty spot.

The best example is probably the corner against manchester united, when he bringst he corner with an outstanding accuracy, good speed and much curl over the complete defensive of manchester, exactly to the foot of Arjen.

Aggression

I had him one point higher rated than Robben, because Robben also meets Lahm times, the way in their own half found, is closer to his own half to get to balls. Ribery is rather deep in the opponent's half, whether it take the ball directly into the offensive to use the narrow space. ball with his first touch and his response, he is in a position to solve them directly from his opponent to jump near the opponent's goal to create a dangerous situation.

Free Kicks

Also in this case I´ve him one point higher than Robben. Ribery's free-kicks are dangerous, but he`s still not a free kick specialist. he has a lot curl and power in his free kicks, they are dangerous. But not every free kick he shoots is automatically a weapon.

Mentality / Stamina

If he is healthy, then runs ribery in the offensive, is always ready to make a little decision, he has never really tired. it's just that he no player is running after a lost ball great. I would have rated lower if the World Cup would not have been. there he was the only one who had the decency, the French expression jersey thing as intellectual struggle to develop. to run, to be ready to make backwards and fight for the ball.

I currently have him on a level with Robben, if Ribery these characteristics continue to prove, I am willing to revalue its mentality even more


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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby Kruger13 » 2011 Dec 05, 23:48

Nice update! I have very similar values in my game. I agree with 50 in DEF, this season we have the most collaborative in terms of defence Ribery of all years, he shows more engaged to mark, so this make him improve in this aspect or just maybe showed this hidden ability until now.

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby Al-bulldozer » 2011 Dec 06, 06:10

I agree on raising his defence . He looks more defensive this year .

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby jurgens » 2011 Dec 06, 10:09

I guess 50 is fine. Not sure on exact value. Btw I was trying to find examples of his first touch.. cause it's kinda "suspect" value because it's something very rarely displayed. I was looking through he first video I found for Ribery vs and found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLvJhU7UKUE&t=4m4s it's not exactly the most impressive control in the world, but it is very nice.. and can't be bothererd to look through more 9 min vids cause he gets played a diffuclt ball maybe once every 2 matches .

edit: another example but not great really... its hard finding them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMFcZTyW8t4&t=3m20s

Also I'd agree with a lower lpa. I've only suggested one point less based on his past. He hasn't really been an 86 this season. Also.. I really question that WFA of 7 six seems more than enough,

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby Al-bulldozer » 2011 Dec 07, 23:36

S-cobar ، if you are able to change his awareness number (attack and defence awareness ) which found in the Pes12 form ، would you change them please ؟
I would give him 3 for attack and 2 for defence .

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby Y2J » 2011 Dec 07, 23:51

i don't agree with this shit .

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby Albo7 » 2012 Feb 26, 16:36

He performed his best match of 2012 yet. Can't say the same about Robben. Injuries finally got him imo.

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby Al-bulldozer » 2012 Feb 26, 17:39

He was great today and Robben was good too . Robben made a lot of good opportunities to score . I think he just needs time .

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby s-cobar » 2012 Mar 06, 19:42

This is a new version, based on jurgens set, with impressions by me and Konami defintion...

Club: FC Bayern Münich
Name: Franck RIBÉRY
Number: 7
Positions: ★ SM, WF
Nationality: French
Age: 28 (07/04/1983)

Height: 170 cm
Weight: 72 kg

Injury Tolerance: C
Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 88
Defence: 52
Balance: 83
Stamina: 87
Top Speed: 85
Acceleration: 90
Response: 80
Agility: 88
Dribble Accuracy: 91
Dribble Speed: 90
Short Pass Accuracy: 83
Short Pass Speed: 85
Long Pass Accuracy: 83
Long Pass Speed: 82
Shot Accuracy: 79
Shot Power: 81
Shot Technique: 82
Free Kick Accuracy: 77
Curling: 82
Header: 65
Jump: 75
Technique: 88
Aggression: 91
Mentality: 74
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 78

Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 6

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★ Dribbling
★ Tactical Dribble
★ Reaction
★ Passing
★ Middle Shooting
★ 1-Touch Pass
★ Outside

PLAYER INDEX CARDS:
P09 - Cut Back Pass
P10 - Incisive Run
P11 - Long Ranger
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S05 - 1-touch play
S06 - Outside Curve
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills
S18 - Turning Skills


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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby TBD » 2012 Mar 06, 19:51

Great set but I have one problem with it, IMO you overrate him in SA he doesn't deserve this value, I think 80 good value for him.

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby s-cobar » 2012 Mar 06, 19:53

it`s just one point below. I think he miss some shots. Ok this season he`s more dangerous than ever. But also result by his good runs. and individual class.

oh btw - i reduce the mentality cause of the new defintion.- I mean Konamit ever had the same defintion but PSD had his own. But if I use the defintion and values of Knonamis mentality/Tenacity - I thin a value of 74 is enough, cause he isn`t a leader guy, everyone knows he needs a good team spirit a good harmony to show his class

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby bitz » 2012 Mar 06, 20:46

I like your set better s-cobar, some values look odd in the 1st post, like TS. Perhaps I would keep him on orange TEC though, I always admired his 1st touch.

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Mar 06, 21:10

I like the new set, i was preparing a suggestive post about him but this set is much similar to what i was going to post, so there is no need for it.
I have to agree with bitz on TECH he is still world class here, i remembered the first touch showed against Zurich in UCL this season. Magnificant! About his TS i rated him at 87. Also i you said, he is more than dangerous than ever or similar to his first season in München, for me his ACC has a great influence of his dribbles, his rhythm change is just wonderful that is why he evade 2 rivals in the same play. I see that with DS we compensate TS & ACC.
Do you still have the previous set before the current one? Some values of it would fit current Ribery really well with some adjust.

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby s-cobar » 2012 Mar 06, 21:23

the old set is in my evo-web thread I think. this set from now is with konami definitions and based on the set by jurgens. the old one was by the old psd defintions. like I said today, it`s that Konami work more conservative and PSD work in th past with more dynamic and with a faster game. But at all I think the defintion of mentality and teamwork were totally wrong and so I´m for a decrease in general.

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby jurgens » 2012 Mar 06, 21:34

I don't agree with the ds personally, he need does tend to slow down alot when its not full on punt and run. Also his short passing defintly isn't as good as robbens. And agility is fine on current value, same with tech.

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby s-cobar » 2012 Mar 06, 22:10

are you fine with the rest? just to find a solution? or are you disagree with the whole? so we could talk about

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby jurgens » 2012 Mar 06, 22:13

nah everything else looks pretty good, just those few things are what I'd have on differnt values

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby s-cobar » 2012 Mar 06, 22:19

like I said I´m a bit out of statsamking in the past after the revolution. so it`s good to find a way we could do it.

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby Adrien » 2012 Mar 06, 22:22

Thanks to made a new set for him, I was so hesitant between this PSD set and Konami set on my OF. Nice to see your reworks with Konami one too ;)

I'm not a follower of him at the Bayern so I can't help you but with what I saw from him with French NT, he really deserves this white value on Ment... often a shadow on NT...

Like said jurgens DS at 90 is maybe too high. Konami use an orange value because of past season from him when he was at his best level... But it is outdated, he don't run so much and so fast like before. He was very fast with the ball some times ago, may be near of 90, but now 88 is really enough. :)

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby purplet » 2012 Mar 16, 14:25

With all his assists, dont u think teamwork 80would be fair? IMO hes above usual striker teamwork, same as robben at the moment.

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Re: Franck RIBÉRY

Postby s-cobar » 2012 Mar 16, 16:53

Teamwork has nothing do to with the count of assists

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