Arjen Robben

[Markulur]

[BigStu]

I like to experiment sometimes and I haven't really noticed any negative effects on the wrong side, and I never noticed in old gen either

[Alexalibur]

I like to experiment sometimes and I haven't really noticed any negative effects on the wrong side, and I never noticed in old gen either

It's more about shooting/crossing problems, otherwise he's still the same

[jurgens]

. And does change sides from time to time with ribery.

Do you think Ribery deserves both too ؟

Yeah, hes not as compotent as robben though on both. Really nice assit vs werder... and almost made one of the assits of the season towards the end of the match.

[Al-bulldozer]

when I play Ribery as a RMF . I always feel that something changed . sometimes he can't dribble well neither moves well because of favorite side .

[mcmattie]

I agree Robben can be pretty selfish and should try to combine more with his teammates and pass more than go for own succes, but I think 70 for TW is a bit harsh. I'd like to refer to the very first page of this topic, where you see posts of late 2008 where Robben's TW was also at a 70 value and where people thought it was a bit too low.

[MrEskola]

Sometimes he actually tries to pass it for a teammate and bag assist, but that's rare. Still, 70 TW is way too low. Around 73 imo.

[s-cobar]

I can`t see a reason to raise his TW. if he`s controlled by AI everything is fine with a TW value at 70

[Y2J]

70 is very good for him
but raise in RESPONSE & AGILITY is great for him !

[ballmer]

Please, don't raise TW. We're generally rather scared to go below green values but it just adds to realism to have players with more remarkably high and remarkably low values. And TW is certainly not a notable part of his game at all.

[s-cobar]

make it short - for the moment there is no reason to change anything at the set

[Kruger13]

Updated based on jurgens (alternative section) changes:

ATT: 87 ---> 92
TS: 92 ---> 91
ACC: 93 ---> 92
SA: 86 ---> 89
Added: P09 – Cut Back Pass

[MrEskola]

Does those changes really reflect him in his current form?

[Fantasista]

I see no reason for that high values for att and sa, especially sa.

[Maz3r]

I see no reason for that high values for att and sa, especially sa.

If he gets back to his old form the values are correct. We have to see what will happen the rest of this season.

[MrEskola]

And the problem is................... IF he gets back to his old form...

The stats should reflect players at their current form, not their form at their peak. There are classics for that purpose, Maz3r and Kruger13.
I have to agree with s-cobar and Fantasista, there's not any reason to "update" these, he's not playing especially well.

[s-cobar]

he`s in a bad shape at the moment, no doubt - cause of injuries - but at all I don`t want to decrease stats at the moment. If I take a view to his whole Bayern time I like the set by jurgens

[Alexalibur]

What I don't understand is why he has 7 CON/FIT? It's way way over what he deserves. He played like 40 games in 2 years while other players such as Pique, Iniesta, even David Luiz played more than him in one year and have the same value!

[s-cobar]

cause the pojnt isn`t his conditon - it`s his injury tolerance who kick him out of the game. if he`s fit he`ll do a lot of matches

[Al-bulldozer]

I am with s-cobar . His situation is almost like Kaka's . When he starts to regain his performance and performs well , he gets injured later . It is really hard to rate Players like Robben so the best solution for them is giving them IT C .

[Pumpernikiel]

I am with s-cobar . His situation is almost like Kaka's . When he starts to regain his performance and performs well but he gets injured later . It is really hard to rate Players like Robben so the best solution for them is giving them IT C .

But there's one little difference - "They" are downgrading Kaka all the time. Now they are planning to downgrade his DA and TEC to mid yellows. Bloodthirsty leeches, lol.
And i just noticed you're one of them! haha this is fucked up