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Arjen Robben

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby Dino » 2009 Jan 02, 02:35

Ulises wrote:But i think he deserves 1 point more in DS. About his tecnique i think he could be 89, have you seen him catching balls that follows from the clouds?¿

Yeah i would agree with that.

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby nonobus » 2009 Jan 05, 20:00

Ulises wrote:I disagree with DA 90 or higher. But i think he deserves 1 point more in DS. About his tecnique i think he could be 89, have you seen him catching balls that follows from the clouds?¿

:arrow: agree too about technique 89

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby Tavo » 2009 Jan 06, 11:10

I agree about the DS and Technique.

And I'd like to suggest Consistency 7, everytime he's not injured, he's completely unstoppable, and he's even improving!

Too bad about his cristal legs...we could enjoy him more.

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby Markulur » 2009 Jan 06, 11:13

Updated Technique and waitting for the rest.

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby Tavo » 2009 Jan 06, 11:37

Markulur wrote:Updated Technique and waitting for the rest.


No opinion about the rest Marc?

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby Dino » 2009 Jan 06, 15:37

I agree with Tavo.

And btw did anybody see his goal? Fuckin magic.

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby Tavo » 2009 Jan 06, 16:17

Yep, I hope he keeps it up like that, he's, like I said, unstoppable at the moment, if only we could get him to make some assists to Sneijder and Huntelaar...

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Jan 07, 01:20

I think he's a bit stronger. Despite he likes to fell to the ground, he is strong when he needs to be. My suggestion is BB: 77. Not less than Robinho.

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 07, 01:34

I disagree there... I don't think he warrants a 77 yet, Robben never beats a player based on balance and his height will still give him an edge against some players

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby Tavo » 2009 Jan 07, 10:57

I think the same than pedala robinho, but the fact that he dives makes everyone disagree in anything bigger than 75 for his Balance.

But he should probably be at least there. 75 wouldn't be much of an improvement.

Apparently he won't get injured so much now, a Chinese/Dutch doctor that used to play in Ajax as a winger says he's found the way to treat him.

Fingers crossed. :mrgreen:

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Jan 07, 18:57

PMC wrote:Robben never beats a player based on balance

Are you sure about that? I can prove to you that you are wrong, if U want ;) .

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby Tavo » 2009 Jan 07, 20:56

I'm not saying that I don't believe you (and I know that was not directed to me...) but I'd like to see your proof, just for curiosity :D

I hope we can see his "real" Balance in there, and get to a better and more accurate number, counting with the fact that he´ll dive anyway so we can´t give him a "high" number cause it wouldn´t give you the real Robben feeling.

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Jan 07, 21:38

Well, here you have two examples: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=lbRy1IRfHxo at 1:05 and 1:30. Here is one more in the start of the video, simply amazing: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=NKepilrJQB4&feature=related (At 0:25, you can the difficulties the defender have with his Agility and DA. At 0:30, you can see two defenders having difficulties with him because of his Body Balance).

But maybe you're right, and I can agree with you. Maybe 77 is a bit too much and 75 is enough.

Anyways, what a great player, huh? I hope he don't gets hurt more :D .

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby LaitP » 2009 Jan 08, 09:56

I have read some where that he achieved the most killer passes in La Liga.
Now, I'm not sure if that news meant in the whole Liga or in the past round (which Madrid played against Villarael).
So, maybe he deserves the Passing star or at least a higher SPA and SPS.

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby Markulur » 2009 Jan 08, 10:39

The newpaper Marca saids this, but said that Robben makes more final passes than Messi, not who makes the most. ;)

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Jan 08, 14:58

What about:

SPA: 79
SPS: 81

He will be able to make fast short passes. BTW, I disagree with PASSING*. I think that will make him more a passing player than a dribbling player.

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby Markulur » 2009 Jan 08, 15:10

Well, I don't think that we need to change this for a stadistic. More thinking that his final passes are always a ... pass death? "Pase de la muerte"... if any spanish can translate it please. :lol:

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby TheTrueSeto » 2009 Jan 08, 15:16

Markulur wrote:Well, I don't think that we need to change this for a stadistic. More thinking that his final passes are always a ... pass death? "Pase de la muerte"... if any spanish can translate it please. :lol:


I don't know any spanish personally, but is it something along the lines of" A pass to the death"?

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Jan 08, 15:26

No, "pase de la muerte" is more something like "death pass" or "passe from the death" ;) .

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Re: Arjen ROBBEN

Postby Tavo » 2009 Jan 08, 17:33

Its simply an assist, whether it ends in goal or not.

The classical cut-back style used this "pase de la muerte" a lot, its just a killer back pass that gets defenders running towards goal therefore having more problems to turn and then clear it.

You should be already able to do them with his current stats, but you have to make yourself the opportunity for it, going all the way to the line and then passing it to the middle for one of the strikers.

He was already the "killer pass king" in my game before this newspapers started all this, to try to enhance Robben, as if he needed it. He just needed the credit, and a little respect from his injuries.

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