Toni Kroos

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Toni Kroos

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 18:56

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 31, 19:50

loaned out to Bayer Leverkusen

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Feb 01, 11:03

PMC wrote:loaned out to Bayer Leverkusen

Wow :o Isn't that a bit surprising? That is like Balotelli getting loaned to Roma :P

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby fillerup » 2009 Feb 01, 11:46

yea hes staying there till 2010

very good move imo, remember lahm spent 2 years at stuttgart and thats how he became so good today

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby troedelbaer » 2009 Feb 08, 11:01

Number: 39

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Angel of Death » 2009 Feb 15, 09:28

Great acquisition but I think he could get chances at bayern

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Heui » 2009 Feb 15, 19:07

He would have wasted his time and talent on Bayern's bench

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Nrby » 2009 Jul 05, 19:33

now even if it's Gekas's goal I would like to note the super quality of the cross from Kroos ... now this one happened to be an assist ... but I know for a fact that he can performe these on a regular basis ... I remember some similar ones from dead balls for Bayern when they played with Red Star


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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby colinflava » 2009 Aug 04, 12:09

If Toni Kroos has prooved one of his abilities to be outstanding right now, then it is his Shot Technique and Accuracy and his Free Kick Accuracy. But theses stats do not reflect his real strengths at all. In my view Shot Technique and Accuracy have to be increased by 10 each, and Free Kick Accuracy by 5.

This goal is quite typical of him:

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Shubitidze » 2009 Aug 09, 18:12

colinflava wrote:If Toni Kroos has prooved one of his abilities to be outstanding right now, then it is his Shot Technique and Accuracy and his Free Kick Accuracy. But theses stats do not reflect his real strengths at all. In my view Shot Technique and Accuracy have to be increased by 10 each, and Free Kick Accuracy by 5.


He is right. But 10 each may be a bit too much, I would suggest:

SA=76
SP=81
ST=77
FKA= 78
CURL=81

He is a really good scorer for a midfielder. Kroos is very talented, but his problems are IMO MENT, DEF, BB... So with adjusted shooting stats his stats picture him very well.

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby calleklein » 2009 Aug 09, 21:25

updated :D

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby winkel » 2009 Oct 05, 13:44

FKA = 78
isn't too small? He score from free kick again.

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Fisch » 2009 Oct 14, 09:10

This really needs to be updated!
First of all he's 19 now.

Am I right that the position with the * next to it is his main position? (sorry but I'm new here) I definitely have to say that he's more of a playmaker/attacking midfielder than a side midfielder. Though he has proven to be able to do both really well he showed his best performances for Leverkusen as #10 and not #7. His passing and his ideas are really great. He is extremely creative...I watched the 2nd half of the game of the German u21 yesterday and every dangerous attack was set up by him. Often times he just chipped it over the defence and it perfectly went to his teammates. He started as a side midfielder but always tried to move to the center to make Germany's attacks more unpredictable by passing on either wing or by passing it to the center forward. When he passed it to the center forward he directly moved up as well so the center forward just had to let it bounce off and Toni had the ball again being much closer to the opponent's goal. He was definitely the mvp yesterday being only 19 in an u21 game!! As I suggested above, put attacking midfielder as his main position. That's what he always played at Bayern. At Bayer he's starting to play on that position more often but he pretty much had to play on the wings so far because there's no playmaker in Bayer's system I believe.

Now to his stats:

I would say put FK accuracy at 80 and sverve at 84. (sverve does affect crosses, too, doesn't it?)
Kroos shoots pretty much all the freekicks for the German u21 national team.
Also his corners and the freekicks that are crosses are always extremely dangerous. Even more than his freekick shots. He times his crosses perfectly and they are really accurate which is why I would put his long pass accuracy at 83 as well. When he was still at Bayern, he and not Schweinsteiger brought in the freekicks and the corners. Still Schweinsteiger has a higher long pass accuracy. If he continues to do so well this season I would also suggest his short pass accuracy and speed to be updated but as of now there's no need for that I think.

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Shubitidze » 2009 Oct 14, 09:33

I think your suggestions are absolutely right! Welcome "on board"!

Summed up Fisch's suggestions are these:

AM*, SMF, CM
Age: 19

LPA: 83
FKA: 80
CURL: 84

If you "present" your suggestions like this it's easier for the mods to update and for the users to read.

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Oct 14, 09:44

agree without curl, with 84 he`s one under Salihovic - can´t be right.

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Fisch » 2009 Oct 14, 09:51

ok compare these to curls...both are recent freekicks:





To me it looks like Kroos' curl being 1 under Salihovic's curl is perfect.

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Oct 14, 09:55

I just think that Salihovic proof his curl every week in freekicks and corners. Kroos got some good freekicks, but also terrible corners, at the youth teams of germany, that`s the reason why I disagree with curl one under Salihovic.


I will see what MonKevski say, I think 83 is fine.

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby monKevski » 2009 Oct 14, 10:43

When I see these both videos of Kroos' and Salihovic' free-kick, then Kroos hasn't nearly so much swerve than Sejad.
The value "swerve" compares two abilities: curl and dip. Salihovic got a brilliant curl and a decent dip, Kroos free-kicks hasn't any dip as you can see it in the video and the ball hadn't so much curl, otherwise it would fly more to the angle.
So my decision to give Kroos only something around 82, at most 83, everything over that would be really to much.

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Nov 04, 10:34

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Name: Toni Kroos
Club: Bayer Leverkusen (on loan from Bayern Munich)
Number: 39
Position: AM*, SM, CM
Nationality: German
Age: 19 (04/01/1990)

Foot: R
Side: B

Length: 182
Weight: 71

Attack: 76
Defence: 48
Balance: 77
Stamina: 81
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 83
Response: 77
Agility: 82
Dribble Accuracy: 81
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Speed: 78
Long Pass Accuracy: 81
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 74
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 75
Free Kick Accuracy: 78
Curling: 81
Header: 68
Jump: 73
Technique: 81
Aggression: 78
Mentality: 77
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 79

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot frequency: 6
Consistency: 5

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I make this update cause I watch Kroos since hie`s in the BL and I`m sure that he was overrated in some areas and wrong rated in some other ares.

His passing abilities were too high, yes he got an unbelievable potencial but he doN´t show it much, yet. This season is his first real season. at bayern he just made a few matches, last season at bayer he was a sub first and just played the last matches.
He isn`t on a Özil or Trochowski level, yet. More on a Müller level at the moment, Müller is just more effective at the moment.

If I look on the AM`s in the BL we can see him on alevel with Rakititc.

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Farfan17 » 2009 Nov 04, 12:00

yes, he is to overrated! he is a good player, but he is very young!
agree with the update of s-cobar!

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